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8700 As Modem (TMobile Users)

Hey everyone,
There has been a little bit of confusion for TMobile customers on how to set the 8700 up as a modem. Apparently TMobile has upgraded their DM and it is so much easier to do.

First go to www.t-mobile.com/bbupgrade and choose "get software".
Enter your cell number and download Desktop Manager Version 4.1.1.12

When that has finished, first make sure that you have completely deleted your old version of Desktop Manager, and install the new version.

Now go to Start>Control Panel>System>Hardware>Device Manager.
Scroll down to Ports. There should be 2 listed under RIM. Make sure you know what COM Ports they are under (Probably 4 and 5). Write them down if your memory isn't that good.

Once you have done this, open Desktop Manager and connect your Blackberry. Once the link between the two is connected, go to Start>Control Panel>Network Connections>Create a New Connection.

Under the Network Connection Wizard, chose:
Connect to the Internet>Set Up My Connection Manually>Connect Using a Dial Up Modem.

When you get to "Select A Device". Check the box that is the COM Port that your RIM Port was listed under.

Next, under ISP name, name it something like "Blackberry, BB, T-Mobile, etc).

Under Telephone Number, put *99#.

Leave the User Name and Password blank under the next option.
If it is going to be ur default internet connection, then make sure that box is clicked. Now click Next and Finish.

Now press Dial and try to connect.

If you fail to connect, then do the following:

Go to Start>Control Panel>Phones And Modems>Modems. Click on the COM Port associated with the Network Connection you just set up and click on Properties.

When that opens, go the "Advanced" tab. Put the following under Extra Initialization Commands exactly as it is written here:
+cgdcont=1,,"wap.voicestream.com"
Make sure you put the commas, quotation marks etc. and then click OK.

Just for fun you can now click on the Diagnostics tab, and press Query Modem. You will see it query the modem and say Blackberry.

Save your changes and go back to "Network Connections" and Dial the connection. You should be ready to roll!

Last edited by N8DBB; 10-04-2006 at 01:36 PM.
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Re: 8700 As Modem (TMobile Users)

Bookmarked! Thank you.
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Re: 8700 As Modem (TMobile Users)

great stuff!
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Re: 8700 As Modem (TMobile Users)

~via BB (wap.pinstack.com)~Hey N8, would this work for a desktop pc, and does Tmo charge for this?
Also I have a 7290 that's just sitting there with a spare sim. Would the sim need to be activated? Just courious as to whether this can be done. Thanks
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Re: 8700 As Modem (TMobile Users)

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You will need a data plan on whatever phone u were using it on. It will work for any pc. I actually have it set up as a backup on my work computer so if the net ever goes down, all I have to do is plug up the bb, open DM and connect and I am on.

As far as extra charges, there are none (atleast not for now). In all honest I could see t-mobile charging for this in the future as more and more people become aware of this and start doing it.

May not be as fast as a wireless card (yet) but it does give pretty decent download times plus it doesn't cost any extra.
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~via BB (wap.pinstack.com)~sweeet! I've got an old Acer sitting around somewhere. Ima gonna have to try that out here soon. Thanks N8D.
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Question Re: 8700 As Modem (TMobile Users)

Hi all.

I recently upgraded from the 7105 (T-Mobile) and can use it as a modem. However, there are some sites (i.e. google.com or other major sites) when I am in EDGE mode that the sites WILL NOT come up. Am I doing something wrong or is there a fix for this somewhere? I called the help desk and as usual they were useless. Sigh. Been a blackberry user since the pager model days .

Help!

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Re: 8700 As Modem (TMobile Users)

Thanks a lot! Nice write up N8DBB!
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Re: 8700 As Modem (TMobile Users)

I have yet to get this to work. I get to where it says "registering on the network" then it disconnects with the following error: TCP/IP CP reported error 736. The remote computer terminated the control protocol"
Any hints?
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Re: 8700 As Modem (TMobile Users)

Originally Posted by Chronic
I have yet to get this to work. I get to where it says "registering on the network" then it disconnects with the following error: TCP/IP CP reported error 736. The remote computer terminated the control protocol"
Any hints?
I was getting this and probably for a couple reasons, first I just installed the software and the blackberry was disabled. After enabling, I got the same message. This ended up being that I had mistyped my password. It should connect up nearly instantly though.
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Re: 8700 As Modem (TMobile Users)

Its the only way i can get the web. so i can truthfully say it works and it works well.
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Re: 8700 As Modem (TMobile Users)

I had the same 736 problem.

I closed all internet-related apps on the 8700 that were hidden (cycle via alt-esc)

I removed the SPACE from the advance settings (so no space before wap):
Code:
+cgdcont=1,,"wap.voicestream.com"
and logged in with an EMPTY username and password.

Anyway, it works, as I'm typing this on that connection. ;-) (115.2KBit/s it says)

TT.

PS Can anyone confirm that this is 'free' with an unlimited dataplan on T-mobile... they screwed me once before with a $400 overage bill after 'all family plans have free roaming' as advertised on TV was apparently did not include MY family plan, bastards.
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Re: 8700 As Modem (TMobile Users)

PS Actually, I just realized this 115.2 speed reported is the max. speed of the com port. A little test on speakeasy reports 160kbps down & 80kbps up.

I wonder if the max serial port speed is the limiting factor here (it's not the USB). According to the Enhanced_Data_Rates_for_GSM_Evolution entry in WikiPedia more should be possible.

Anyone have tips, suggestions or comments?
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Re: 8700 As Modem (TMobile Users)

As far as maxing the speed, I will look around and see if I can find anything...

As far as being charged extra, as long as you have the Tmo unlimited plan, you will be fine...I have been doing this for a few months now and my bill hasn't changed at all...And I think that last month I had about 140MB or so worth of data transfer.
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Re: 8700 As Modem (TMobile Users)

This is so awesome! I finally got sometime to get this to work. We're actually on a five hour drive and I made my wife drive so I can configure this thing out. I got connected and I am writing on my car while my wife is driving! Thanks N8DBB!
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Re: 8700 As Modem (TMobile Users)

Ok - this is great and all but what about us Mac users?
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Re: 8700 As Modem (TMobile Users)

thanks for the info - really good to know
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Re: 8700 As Modem (TMobile Users)

~via BB (wap.pinstack.com)~can I use the 7105 to conect as well or is this only on the 8700? Also could some one tell me how to add my pin to my name like you all have?
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Re: 8700 As Modem (TMobile Users)

Good morning, (I think I eroneously posted this on another thread as well)

I'm trying this out and I get an error "692. There was a hardware failure in the modem". I have desktop manager running an connected to the BB. All other settings/strings are correct per the above instructions. Any idea what I've done wrong?

Thanks!!
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Re: 8700 As Modem (TMobile Users)

Originally Posted by wolfi622
I'm trying this out and I get an error "692. There was a hardware failure in the modem".

Thanks!!
Lemme check. I think this is an actual windows error and doesn't have to do with the berry itself. I ran into a couple errors when doing this the first time and I think that was one of them.
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Re: 8700 As Modem (TMobile Users)

~via BB (wap.pinstack.com)~ thanks. I appreciate it!
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Re: 8700 As Modem (TMobile Users)

Per Microsoft website:

"Error 692: Hardware Failure in the Modem" Error Message When You Dial an RAS Server
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Article ID : 314846
Last Review : June 23, 2003
Revision : 1.0
This article was previously published under Q314846
For a Microsoft Windows 2000 version of this article, see 122839 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/122839/EN-US/).
SYMPTOMS
When you dial a Remote Access Services (RAS) server in Windows XP, you may receive the following error message as the modem starts to initialize:
Error 692: There was a hardware failure in the modem (or other connecting device).
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CAUSE
This behavior can occur if any of the following conditions exists:
• The modem is turned off or malfunctioning.
• If you have an external modem, the serial cable is incorrectly wired.
• If you have an external modem, the serial cable is not securely connected or has open connections.
• The serial port or multiport adapter on the RAS server or client is malfunctioning.
• The handshaking options for the modem are incorrectly configured.
• The modem is unsupported, or the chosen emulation may be incorrect.
• The modem .inf files become corrupted or the modem driver becomes corrupted.
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RESOLUTION
To resolve this problem, use the appropriate method:
• Reset your modem. Consult the documentation for information about how to reset the modem.
• If you have an external modem, make sure that you are using the correct serial cable. For more information about requirements for proper cabling, refer to the "Cabling Requirements" section in Dial-Up Networking Help.
• If you have an external modem, make sure that the serial cable is connected securely.
• If you are using a pin adapter to connect your external modem to your serial port, make sure that the pin adapter is wired properly for modem communication. For example, a 9- to 25-pin adapter for a mouse does not work properly with an RAS serial setup.
• Test the serial port or multiport adapter, and replace the adapter if necessary.
• Make sure that the handshaking options for the modem are configured properly. Consult the documentation for information about the different handshaking options that are available for your modem.
• Contact the modem manufacturer to see if any setup and initialization information is available for your modem. Also, check the latest Windows hardware compatibility list (HCL) to make sure that your modem is supported.
• Use Device Manager to remove the modem. You can do this in safe mode or in normal mode. Restart the computer in normal mode. Windows XP will redetect the modem and reinstall the correct drivers.

Now obviously you can't reset your modem, because it is your Blackberry. What DM version are you using? Windows Operating System? You have the extra initialization code correct, correct?
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Re: 8700 As Modem (TMobile Users)

Interesting you should ask about the DM version. I downloaded 4.1.1.12 from the t-mobile site as stated above. I uninstalled the version I installed when I got the BB. Installed 4.1.1.12, hooked up the BB and started DM. Connected no problem. The file for the download is called 41112dtMULT.exe. Sounds right, right? but when I look at "about" on DB it says version 4.1.1.9. I'm running XP Pro SP2 and I do have the initialization code as listed above.
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Re: 8700 As Modem (TMobile Users)

ok, I'm in now. Woo Hoo!!! I reinstalled the DM again (still said 4.1.1.12). Then I got the 736 error above, then I deleted my connection and set it up again and voila! Very Very Cool. Thanks N8!
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Re: 8700 As Modem (TMobile Users)

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Hi all! Ok I got my 7105t to work as a modem but I am having a couple of issues.
1. I am connected but after 15 to 20 minutes it stops loading.
2. This morning I tried it and the internet connection said I was connected but when I opened up IE a window popped up telling me I wasn't conected to the internet and to cancel or try again. Can any one help me? Pretty please.
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Re: 8700 As Modem (TMobile Users)

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Also Tomtester wrote "I had the same 736 problem.
I closed all internet-related apps on the 8700 that were hidden (cycle via alt-esc)
I removed the SPACE from the advance settings (so no space before wap):Code:+cgdcont=1,,"wap.voicestream.com" and logged in with an EMPTY username and password.
Anyway, it works, as I'm typing this on that connection. ;-) (115.2KBit/s it says)
TT."
What is the esc button on the 7105t? Is it the button under the scroll wheel?
Thanks
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Re: 8700 As Modem (TMobile Users)

Originally Posted by skip00319
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Hi all! Ok I got my 7105t to work as a modem but I am having a couple of issues.
1. I am connected but after 15 to 20 minutes it stops loading.
2. This morning I tried it and the internet connection said I was connected but when I opened up IE a window popped up telling me I wasn't conected to the internet and to cancel or try again. Can any one help me? Pretty please.
First off, the back button that I believe you are referring to is the one that is located under the trackwheel.

Second, when 15-20 minutes it stopped loading, were you in a spotty coverage area, or by chance did you have a call that was incomming? I kind of like to compare these to the old dial up modems with call waiting. Sometimes (from my experiences) it won't ring but all of a sudden you will get a voice mail pop up. Sometimes it will suspend the connection and your phone will actually ring. Sometimes it just freezes up. Guess just depending on whatever mood your berry is in at the time.

As far as being connected and IE saying it wasn't, the only thing that I can recommend is just try your connection again. I have used Internet Explorer, Firefox and Opera on my Laptop when connected through the Blackberry, and Firefox is the best that I have come across so far with a Blackberry connection.

Hope this helps. Lemme know.
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Re: 8700 As Modem (TMobile Users)

thanks this is awesome. I shall have to test it out this weekend
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Re: 8700 As Modem (TMobile Users)

~via BB (wap.pinstack.com)~thanks N8. Tonight I will try and download firefox. It seems my BB has violent mood swings and only works when it wants to. Thanks for your help.
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Re: 8700 As Modem (TMobile Users)

That is amazing. Thankyou for the idiots guide, which is what i always need. I am sending this message using the bbery connection. I did have to remouve the space before wap. for reference you might want to change that in the explanation at top for everyone who copies and pastes it like me.
Thankyou again, cheers johnny
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