[SpiceMan]

Caught a first glimpse of a VZW prototype BlackBerry today. Code name is supposedly "Cyclone", but looks very similar to what I've seen as "GammaRay" or the 8800. Design is virtually identical to Motorola Q. Has expansion slot, trackball, GSM, etc.

Can anyone confirm if Cyclone is the same as the 8800?

[sn1p3r]

SpiceMan if it's on Verizon this can be a GSM device 'cause verizon are on CDMA network and this is not the same thing at all

[UH8ME]

Nothing...

Sounds like an interesting concept though... I gotta start searching the web for info.

[SpiceMan]

This is definitely a VZW phone and I know it's capable of international roaming. I must have had my T-mobile users in mind when I typed GSM.

Either way, regardless of the technology, VZW will supposedly have it by sometime in Q2.

[bdbrown3703]

Sooner than that. I sat on a plane last week with a senior Verizon executive, (Vice President) and he told me that there will be a Blackberry phone out on the Verizon network with international roaming within the next 5 - 6 months.

[archer6]

Originally Posted by SpiceMan Caught a first glimpse of a VZW prototype BlackBerry today. Code name is supposedly "Cyclone", but looks very similar to what I've seen as "GammaRay" or the 8800. Design is virtually identical to Motorola Q. Has expansion slot, trackball, GSM, etc. Can anyone confirm if Cyclone is the same as the 8800?

Post a link please

[BCoop8184]

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Ok so Vzw is on CDMA which means a GSM phone is not for Vzw. It is possible that Vzw might be releasing an 8700 series capable of roaming overseas on a GSM network but I highly doubt Vzw is going to get a version of the 8800 series before any other carrier. I don't have any insider info, but this is just usually how things work. I have no idea what you saw or heard but none of this really makes much sense.

[Toddboy71]

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Well 6 months would fall into Q2 07.

[sn1p3r]

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I agree with bcoop I just think this is an 8703 with international roaming capabilities just like the moto v710 and the moto a840

[UH8ME]

Toddboy71...

I didn't want to touch that one...but you were thinking the exact same thing I was!!! LOL!!!
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[BCoop8184]

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Does anyone know if Vodafone is CDMA or GSM? Just curious...

[sn1p3r]

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Vodafone is on 3g if I remember well which is an upgrade from gsm

[Rcbjr]

Vodafone is GSM I'm sure. Don't know of any Major European carrier that is not. I think that is a EU Requirement.

Rcbjr.

[archer6]

Vodaphone is all 3G

[BCoop8184]

ok thats what I thought. Just wondering cause it would make sense if Vzw wants to release a device that can go back and forth between Vodafone and Vzw.

[giamburrasca]

~via BB (wap.pinstack.com)~Its rumoured here in the UK that they want to sell their VZW stake.

[auramae]

Man, I hope this is right! I was just about to jump ship to a GSM carrier so I could get a Blackberry that I could use while in Europe, but I hate the idea of dropping my superior CDMA service her since I am in Seattle far mor than I am in Europe. This could be my dream machine! (especially if it is the same as the 8800!)

[Rcbjr]

auramae, Welcome to PinStack.

Let us know if there is anything we can do to help with your BB.

Rcbjr

[db869]

My VZW rep has told me that there will be a combination CDMA/GSM BB released by VZW after the New Year sometime. It will operate as CDMA in the US and other countries with CDMA networks (Canada, the Carribean, S. Korea, etc.) and operate as GSM in other countries.

My company has some Motorola A840 phones (pieces of junk, for the most part) for interational travellers and they have a Vodaphone SIM for international GSM usage. As much as Verizon and Vodaphone keep saying that Vodaphone wants to divest VZW or that Verizon wants to buy all of VZW I think it remains a fairly symbiotic relationship. But, we'll see...

I'm hoping that this unit comes out soon and then I can start transitioning my Cingular users to VZW.

Dave

[BCoop8184]

My guess is a variation of an 8703e with GSM capabilities. I highly doubt that an 8800 series BB with CDMA and GSM will be headed towards Vzw soon, if ever!

[McQueen]

It'll be an 8800 with CDMA/GSM-GPRS, media player, microSD, more memory. Should be out by May; Test models are already out

[BCoop8184]

Oh yeah? Where are these test models McQueen? I would be happy to test one out for them...

[McQueen]

Originally Posted by BCoop8184 Oh yeah? Where are these test models McQueen? I would be happy to test one out for them...

Ask your RIM rep, I should have one by the end of the month

[BCoop8184]

RIM rep? Sure..."Hey RIM guy! Can I get one of those unreleased and unannounced super secret Cyclones that EVERYONE is talking about? Great!"

[trigga15]

~via BB (wap.pinstack.com)~it will have nothing on BlackBerry!

[BCoop8184]

trigga what does that statement mean?

[Rcbjr]

McQueen, Welcome to PinStack.

Let us know if there is anything we can do to help with your BB.

Rcbjr

[MobileArch]

The cyclone will be an International device with both CDMA (Verizon) and GSM (Vodafone) capabilities. Believe it will resemble the 8800 as I have heard it will have media capabilities

[McQueen]

Originally Posted by MobileArch The cyclone will be an International device with both CDMA (Verizon) and GSM (Vodafone) capabilities. Believe it will resemble the 8800 as I have heard it will have media capabilities

It is the 8800, and yes it will have both CDMA (Verizon) and GSM (Vodafone) capabilities as mentioned in an earlier post

[sn1p3r]

I just sent an email to my RIM Rep so if he have any right to tell it I should know in the next 48 hours