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    Quote Originally Posted by mic8310 View Post
    pull all of the troops out and nuke it i say
    Wouldn't that "nuke" innocent civillians?

    Nuclear weapons are the worst thing humanity has EVER created and should never be used under ANY circumstance.


    Al-Qaeda wasn't even in Iraq until we invaded, just stating the obvious. Not too mention we started a war under false reasons. There were no WMDs in Iraq.
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    Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11. The majority of the hijackers where from Saudia Arabia but with the Bush boys getting a small fortune from them they had to shift the blame.
    Saddam never had WMD and what has been done to that country is a disgrace. All the war has done has made a few Americans rich. Life on the ground from what I see on the news has not improved for the normal person.
    This war was all about getting Iraq oil and making as much money as possible. There has been Billions that have gone missing and no one in power cares.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vince1 View Post
    Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11. The majority of the hijackers where from Saudia Arabia but with the Bush boys getting a small fortune from them they had to shift the blame.
    Saddam never had WMD and what has been done to that country is a disgrace. All the war has done has made a few Americans rich. Life on the ground from what I see on the news has not improved for the normal person.
    This war was all about getting Iraq oil and making as much money as possible. There has been Billions that have gone missing and no one in power cares.

    haha dont go by "what you see on the news" since NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, NY "Obama Times, the Washington Obama Post....all cater to Deomcrats! Course they want it to look like we are losing.

    Just last week our troops caught im pretty sure the 2nd in command in al quieda. KNow where it was posted? In the middle of the Ny obama Times! know why??? Cause the democrats want americans to think we are losing this war and are there for nothing! Wanna watch the real news? watch Fox baby!
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    Wow there's strong ignorance in this thread. I'm an Iraqi war vet at 18 yrs old. I've seen first hand how these people are living and have heard straight from their mouths how much better life is. You under estimate their ability to love freedom. So what if some electricity was knocked out? We rebuild plus some. Some of you are the kind of people that would choose security over freedom. And the people that do that don't deserve either.

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    Iraq was invaded for Oil, as well as to fuel the war economy for the military and private sector (in my opinion).

    I too used to eat up the spoon fed information from corporate media until around 2002 when I began to get my info from PBS,NPR and the BBC World Service. I enjoy Google News as well as you get articles from around the world regarding a particular subject for fact checking. Once you have a more worldly view, you tend to see things a different light all together.

    Side note: I see Fox News as nothing more than a mouthpiece for the whitehouse AKA a fear mongerer.


    Some fun info about Iraq news and media misperceptions from 2003...
    http://65.109.167.118/pipa/pdf/oct03..._Oct03_rpt.pdf (page 14)


    In 2003, University of Maryland researchers studied the public’s belief in three false claims — that Iraq possessed WMD, that Iraq was involved in 9/11, and that there was international support for the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq. The study found "those who receive most of their news from Fox News are more likely than average to have misperceptions. Those who receive most of their news from NPR or PBS are less likely to have misperceptions. These variations cannot simply be explained as a result of differences in the demographic characteristics of each audience, because these variations can also be found when comparing the demographic subgroups of each audience."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mp55 View Post
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    Wow there's strong ignorance in this thread. I'm an Iraqi war vet at 18 yrs old. I've seen first hand how these people are living and have heard straight from their mouths how much better life is. You under estimate their ability to love freedom. So what if some electricity was knocked out? We rebuild plus some. Some of you are the kind of people that would choose security over freedom. And the people that do that don't deserve either.
    This what I'm tryin to say to DJ!! Thank you for sharing your first hand knowledge with us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j llama View Post
    Iraq was invaded for Oil, as well as to fuel the war economy for the military and private sector (in my opinion).

    I too used to eat up the spoon fed information from corporate media until around 2002 when I began to get my info from PBS,NPR and the BBC World Service. I enjoy Google News as well as you get articles from around the world regarding a particular subject for fact checking. Once you have a more worldly view, you tend to see things a different light all together.

    Side note: I see Fox News as nothing more than a mouthpiece for the whitehouse AKA a fear mongerer.


    Some fun info about Iraq news and media misperceptions from 2003...
    http://65.109.167.118/pipa/pdf/oct03..._Oct03_rpt.pdf (page 14)


    In 2003, University of Maryland researchers studied the public’s belief in three false claims — that Iraq possessed WMD, that Iraq was involved in 9/11, and that there was international support for the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq. The study found "those who receive most of their news from Fox News are more likely than average to have misperceptions. Those who receive most of their news from NPR or PBS are less likely to have misperceptions. These variations cannot simply be explained as a result of differences in the demographic characteristics of each audience, because these variations can also be found when comparing the demographic subgroups of each audience."
    Ok that's one on Fox... Now you wanna look up ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN??? Wanna talk about bias channels?

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    There are no real NEWS channels. They have all got their own agenda. The day of reporting the news is gone and the day of spinning it to suit your view is here.
    I would love to get the proper figures of how many people have died since Iraq was invaded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clarkkent51ny View Post
    haha dont go by "what you see on the news" since NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, NY "Obama Times, the Washington Obama Post....all cater to Deomcrats! Course they want it to look like we are losing.

    Just last week our troops caught im pretty sure the 2nd in command in al quieda. KNow where it was posted? In the middle of the Ny obama Times! know why??? Cause the democrats want americans to think we are losing this war and are there for nothing! Wanna watch the real news? watch Fox baby!
    Its obvious you're not able to look at this issue objectively, considering your previous post and this one as well. But even still, so you really believe we are winning this war? Thats just sad! And you really believe we are there doing some good! As for News! Fox? Thats nothing more than a variety show with a hint of current information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mp55 View Post
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    Wow there's strong ignorance in this thread. I'm an Iraqi war vet at 18 yrs old. I've seen first hand how these people are living and have heard straight from their mouths how much better life is. You under estimate their ability to love freedom. So what if some electricity was knocked out? We rebuild plus some. Some of you are the kind of people that would choose security over freedom. And the people that do that don't deserve either.

    A Vet at 18, you can't join until you're at least 17, so within the last year, they may have seen an upgrade, but I'm sure that was a small minority. In the beginning they may have had a slight upgrade in their living status, but not now, and we still should not be trying to take credit for rebuilding plus some, when we are the ones who tore it down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DjSmooth View Post
    Its obvious you're not able to look at this issue objectively, considering your previous post and this one as well. But even still, so you really believe we are winning this war? Thats just sad! And you really believe we are there doing some good! As for News! Fox? Thats nothing more than a variety show with a hint of current information.

    Spoken like a true democrat!
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    Here is my opinion. And once again it's my opinion. I think that we lost vision along the way. We call ourselves a democracy however we aren't. We go to another country and try to turn them into a democracy. Who said it was our right to turn them into a democracy. What if they don't want to be a democracy. Who said it was our God given right to democracize the world. Everything probably looked great on paper but when it was all said and done it didn't work out as planned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnyxedge View Post
    Here is my opinion. And once again it's my opinion. I think that we lost vision along the way. We call ourselves a democracy however we aren't. We go to another country and try to turn them into a democracy. Who said it was our right to turn them into a democracy. What if they don't want to be a democracy. Who said it was our God given right to democracize the world. Everything probably looked great on paper but when it was all said and done it didn't work out as planned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clarkkent51ny View Post
    Spoken like a true democrat!
    Actually spoken like a person that can see the reality of the situation as a person, none of us was born into a particular Party, you republicans sometime forget about your your basic humanity.

    I honestly don't give a hoot about any party, I have never been one to blindly or stubbornly follow a group, but there can only be ONE in the white house at a time. And the Repulicans had their chance and didn't do a good enough job, so just have some self respect and bow out gracefully.

    Not everything is Democrate or Republican, it is however Right or Wrong, and based on history (the past eight years in particular) it would be Insanity to continue down the same road and expect a different outcome. Just remember your (Repulican) choice said he voted 90% of the time with Mr. Bush (and we are seeing the results of his choices/leadership) Those are his words, so why would anyone believe that all of a sudden he would change his views.

    And this time around I will be voting Democrate, simply because we here in America need a Change, do I expect all this to be done in one Term, No - Impossible! You see, I don't live for either party, but I would have to check my understanding in at the door if I were to choose the Repulican Ticket. And that just will not happen.

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