[mytkeen]

I luv my 8820 and while at a site I tried to download into a Flash player I didn't know was there. It started to lock right away with the hour glass on all
the time, so I shut the power down. It came back up and ran but since then
it has never run the same for Java onloads and there is always a process
running in the background where some sites will not load at all because of the
recursive loops running. I"ve wiped it clean twice but the onload fault is still
there with a couple of other problems also. I haven't installed DM on a PC but
it looks as tho it is the next step. My question then is do I have to do another
complete wipe and reinstall a new OS or can I delete specific apps. and replace them with the JL from DM? Which apps do I target and where can I find fresh ones or the entire OS? Would it be on the CD with the DM? Thanks.

[GaryF]

WOW....lots of questions crammed into a single post. If you are doing a security wipe that may not correct your issue. Install desktop manager and your device operating system (or a newer version) on your PC (click on my blog for more info). If you can actually upgrade your OS that should help. Otherwise You may need to try and reinstall your browser application to see if that corrects the issue. JL Cmder (java wipe) is a last resort....If you decide to do that see Lavagirls primer in my blog.

Good Luck and keep us updated!

[mytkeen]

TY 4 ur reply am getting a
better feel for my 8820 I
assumed if I wiped it the OS
would be fresh instead of the
copy it does seem that the
browser got dinged by Flash
and the only error msg I got
was about Java thread excepts
1st day on site and have yet
to find the right blog but
the device did hang and would
not load 2 sites with apps my
att site dinged it good also
not sure how many Java modules
an 8820 might have but will
have to check it out U are a
big help Thank You Much

[GaryF]

Here is the link to my blog. In it you will find links with step by step instructions for installing desktop manager, upgrading your device operating system, and performing a clean wipe using JL_Cmder, as well as links to download the software needed. Newest OS for 8820 is 4.2.2.184. If you don't have that version I would think installing it may correct your issue. (check on your phone under options, about, 3rd line down)

http://blackberryforums.pinstack.com/blog.php?b=436

[mytkeen]

I have an 8820 which I just wiped clean with javaloader from the BlackBerry JDE after which I installed a new 4.5...OS from ATT by way of the AppLoader wizard, all of which is well documented here. So thanks to all. However my original problem, which is the trackball will not scroll down the screen, remains after all this. It will however scroll normally during the setup wizard at the first screen after it got reconfigured. The trackball then only moves across the screen as before I wiped and replaced the OS.
Therefore I don't see something physically wrong with the device itself because of the setup wizard performance of the trackball.
Why after replacing the entire OS after wiping the device and getting the 507 error screen would the trackball problem persist. Is
there some firmware which was altered by my browsing and exposure to the internet that inputs the new OS?? Desktop Manager
restored all my apps and data to the new OS but are essentially useless if the trackball does not scroll up and down. I am using
the P key and the Space Bar for limited movement in menus. Bit of a sticky wicket, hey wot??

[EricaJ1073]

I replaced an 8120 back in August due to this same trackball behavior. I tried everything I could to save the phone but the trackball wouldn't select anything to save its life. It scrolled every direction I needed it to but selection was a no-go.

[mytkeen]

So basically this post was about 2 problems, Java recursive locking or endless looping within the OS and trackball malfunction.
My 8820 kept getting dinged by sites which were either Flash based or which contained malware. All in all I would still rather
browse with my Blackberry than load up a Windows machine, it is much more elegant and efficient but at the cost of a Java
compounded error, which effects future performance of the Blackberry. What I did was then wipe the OS with the help of this
site and replace it with the upgrade for the 8820, OS 4.5... Being more carefull with where I point the browser should protect
the Java component in the future. The next issue of the trackball which could have been tied to I/O from the OS but not the
case here, was corrected by cleaning it with 90% isopropyl alcohol and a q-tip. It was surprising how much debris floated up
from beneath the surface just by rotating the ball with an alcohol covered q-tip and then letting it dry out. Touch screens may
be the next big thing but this 8820 still floats my boat. So thanks to everybody on this site and there is a way to corect some
of the problems that arise, even though it may take some time and additional thought.