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    This guide will enable you to setup and use Google Talk for BlackBerry to chat with your MSN/Yahoo!/AOL-AIM/ICQ buddies.


    My Carrier: Rogers Wireless
    My BlackBerry(ies): 7100r and 7130g
    My BB OS: 4.0 and 4.1.0.292 (7100) and 4.1.0.327 (7130)
    Google Talk for BlackBerry: 1.0.7



    To start, you need:

    - computer (Mac or PC)
    - gmail.com address
    - psi client

    Psi client is available at:

    http://psi.affinix.com

    It's multi platform / multi OS.

    Because Google Talk offers no services, you will need an additional jabber account from another server. To find a list of jabber servers: http://www.xmpp.net

    Use the psi wiki (http://psi-im.org/wiki/Main_Page) for help with setting up a jabber account on a server and then register for gateway services (this is where you add your MSN / aol / yahoo log in and obtain your contact lists).

    Once you have a jabber account set up, and your services added, and your buddies imported (this happens automatically when you log in for the first time), then you're ready to go back to Google Talk in psi client. When logged into GT on the psi client, you can add a service of a server other than Google (because Google doesn't have any services, but it does support them from a third-party jabber server).

    Then what happens is basically this:

    - you sign in to Google Talk with your @gmail.com name
    - Google Talk automatically signs in to the jabber server of the other account you added to GT
    - that jabber server logs in to your MSN / yahoo / aol

    The set up is a bit of a show, and the subsequent underlying process seems a bit confusing, but it works. And it takes only about 3 seconds more to sign in to all of that and see your contacts from all those IM platforms in Google Talk.

    The only snag is to find a reliable jabber server. I've gone to three different servers before finding one that is reliable.

    Anyway, after all that is done, then you're ready to download GT-4-BB. Get that ota @ http://www.blackberry.com/googletalk

    The next step is to streamline Google Talk on your BlackBerry with other apps. To do this you need to add the jabber email addresses of your GT contacts to their respective address book entries.


    For example:
    - and instead of @ I am using {at}, because I don't want to provide any fake links.
    - the % is real, and it replaces the @ in the MSN addresses, because you wouldn't be able to have two @'s in a single address; Yahoo and AOL don't use email formatted buddy names


    My Friend:
    His MSN login is My.Friend{at}hotmail.com

    Me:
    I have set up my jabber account: Me{at}myjabber.com

    Google Talk sees My Friend through the myjabber.com server.

    Myjabber.com sees My Friend through its MSN gateway.

    Google Talk contact looks like:

    My.Friend%hotmail.com{at}msn.myjabber.com

    In my address book on BB, I already have My Friend's email as My.Friend{at}hotmail.com

    I will also add a second email address My.Friend%hotmail.com{at}msn.myjabber.com

    This will allow the Google Talk application on the BlackBerry to see the address book entry and give click wheel access to chat, email, SMS, and phone call.


    Phew! I'm spent!

    It's a bit much to wrap the mind around at first, I admit. But it works.

    Get through that, and you're GOLD!

    Let me know if you need help.
    Last edited by Lewis; 06-29-2006 at 09:53 AM. Reason: added a guide explanation.

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    Re: Google Talk...and MSN/Yahoo!/AOL

    great guide

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    Re: Guide to: Google Talk...and MSN/Yahoo!/AOL

    nice work thanks!

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    Re: Guide to: Google Talk...and MSN/Yahoo!/AOL

    ~via BB (wap.pinstack.com)~

    Just sharing the knowledge and love of BlackBerry.

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    Question Re: Guide to: Google Talk...and MSN/Yahoo!/AOL

    Quote Originally Posted by boblincoln
    Lewis,

    Sorry if you answered this...but, since Yahoo is now available from BlackBerry.com and is pracitcally the same exact program, can you use Yahoo Chat instead of Google Talk to sign in to MSN?

    I appreciate the help,

    Bob
    No, I didn't answer this. Unfortunately, the answer is no. Though the GUI of Y! Messenger and Google Talk for BlackBerry are nearly identical, the protocols are not. Yahoo! (and MSN, and AOL) use proprietary IM protocols. Google Talk is different because it uses the Jabber protocol, which is open source/open standard.

    And although there are rumours (source: #1) that Yahoo! and MSN will make their protocols compatible, it hasn't happened yet.

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    Re: Guide to: Google Talk...and MSN/Yahoo!/AOL

    Does anyone know if MS is going to follow everyone else and release a BB version of their client?
    Just seems logical
    I think it would be even better if everyone moved to something open like Jabber then we could all pick our own clients but with the time and effort MS just spent on the Live crap i don't see that happening

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    Re: Guide to: Google Talk...and MSN/Yahoo!/AOL

    From what I understand, MSN/Windows Messenger is available for BlackBerry already.

    http://www.blackberry.com/products/b...ndows_im.shtml

    But you've got to be running the BES to get it.

    No time to look right now, but does that "free" BES with 1 licence come with Windows Messenger? Anyone know? Anyone tried it?

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    Re: Guide to: Google Talk...and MSN/Yahoo!/AOL

    interesting i'll look into it
    seems like a pain to install BES just to chat....
    worth looking at it though
    thanks

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    Re: Guide to: Google Talk...and MSN/Yahoo!/AOL

    Ok I must be missing something.

    I got PSI configured, seeing AIM and MSN people in it.
    I have the GT account and see all my GT people in PSI

    When I discover services on GT server I get nothing as expected, then I switch server address in the browser and go back to jabber server. Click the AIM and MSN transports and click add to roster. The transports then show under the GT account in PSI. Log out.... and then log into GT application. No new users.

    I don't think I am registering the services right under the GT account.

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    Re: Guide to: Google Talk...and MSN/Yahoo!/AOL

    ~via BB (wap.pinstack.com)~bump I still need some help

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    Re: Guide to: Google Talk...and MSN/Yahoo!/AOL

    Flyer007, haven't read this thread in a while. Sorry I didn't get to helping you out. Want to set up a time when we can both go through this?

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    Re: Guide to: Google Talk...and MSN/Yahoo!/AOL

    There is a new version of Google Talk for BlackBerry available now! And it's more stable than the older version.

    Read the new thread here.

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    Re: Guide to: Google Talk...and MSN/Yahoo!/AOL

    This is the messenger setup I use and now my family and friends must think I'm nuts because I'm always online with my BB and Google Talk. :P

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    Re: Guide to: Google Talk...and MSN/Yahoo!/AOL

    Hello,


    I think I am the only one that doesn't get it.

    I already download google talk to my BB and to my pc, also I have he psi client.

    Can you help set this up?

    Thank You

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    Re: Guide to: Google Talk...and MSN/Yahoo!/AOL

    Has anyone found a transport that actually works with this? I'm a Cingular customer, so the Yahoo client doesn't work for me. So I'm trying to get to Yahoo users through the GTalk for BB client. I've set it up exactly as instructed and tried four different Jabber providers with Yahoo transports, but none have populated my GTalk buddy list, and none work with manual buddy entries.

    Ped Xing

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