[takadante]

~via BB (wap.pinstack.com)~MMS does use data. I know that for sure.

[Amigotek]

Q. What is the cost for Picture & Video Messaging?
A. You are charged $0.25 for each message you send and receive unless you are on a Messaging package or a MEdia™ bundle. When a single message is sent to multiple recipients, the sender is charged one message for each recipient and each recipient is charged for the message received. Picture & Video messages over 300KBs will be billed additional charges.

Found this on their website just now under the FAQ's for Picture Messaging.

Zo

[jpnelson35]

Originally Posted by Amigotek

Q. What is the cost for Picture & Video Messaging?
A. You are charged $0.25 for each message you send and receive unless you are on a Messaging package or a MEdia™ bundle. When a single message is sent to multiple recipients, the sender is charged one message for each recipient and each recipient is charged for the message received. Picture & Video messages over 300KBs will be billed additional charges.

Found this on their website just now under the FAQ's for Picture Messaging.

Zo

Yeah. I know exactly what the site says. I understand what you have above. That's how i originally understood it.
The store tells me now that I'm not getting charged the $.25 for each message because i have the unlimited messaging plan. But they say I'm getting charged 1 cent per kilo no matter how big the picture is. (250 Kb picture = $2.50 charge) They said quote: "yes, you can send the picture for free. But there is also data that goes along with that picture. You get charged internet usage for that data." In other words, They say in order for me to get unlimited pictures, I need to have unlimited internet in addition to the unlimited multimedia messaging plan i have now.

Now if what the store is telling me is true, this is a huge case of false advertising. I asked them if there is ANY documentation of that fee available to consumers, they said "No, it is only by knowlege." Therefore, the employees are the only ones who know about it. I actually got in an argument with the store manager about this. They said i could call cust serv and they could credit part of it back because i was "anaware and confused." I was not confused though. I know exactly what my plan includes: it includes "unlimited picture messaging." When I called cust serv, the lady said she wouldnt be able to see the charges until the end of the month, when my bill came. But she agreed with me that i should not be charged for them. She said "if the data charges match up with the same times and dates as the messages, you call us back right away." The bill should come in the next couple of weeks.

I found a couple of other people on different forumns who was also told about these fees when they signed up. They never told me three weeks ago when i added the unlimited messaging plan.

I already talked to a lawyer about it, because i was sending dozens of messages a day. (I was really excited when i got my new phone last month.) I'm using 200kb pictures. I may have a couple hundred dollar bill, if these charges are true. Anyways, he said he would help me out if i am being charged. There's no way I'm paying a penny.

[jpnelson35]

OK, I checked my bill, it looks like i didnt get charged.
I guess the guys at the store were wrong.

Thank You

[sanzen71]

Originally Posted by jpnelson35

OK, I checked my bill, it looks like i didnt get charged.
I guess the guys at the store were wrong.

Thank You

Really funny that you did the work around to get pic messaging available, and you were gonna get upset cause you were gonna get charged per kb. haha. And get a lawyer. haha

[jpnelson35]

Originally Posted by sanzen71

Really funny that you did the work around to get pic messaging available, and you were gonna get upset cause you were gonna get charged per kb. haha. And get a lawyer. haha

na, i just talked with a guy i know who is a retired trial lawyer to see if it would be an unlawful business practice if they charged me.
Like i thought, he said they could not charge me.
The thing is, i would have had a few hundred dollars charged to my account.
apparently, there are many class action lawsuits concerning unethical cell phone charges so i wouldnt be alone.
But weirdly, the three store associates and manager at the retail store were somehow misinformed of their products they sell.

[HDGasser]

Originally Posted by jpnelson35

I also have a Pearl w/ ATT with no data plan but unlimited multimedia messaging.
I downloaded and installed the Mobilkom Austria [A1] 4.2.1.101 OS.
My MMS button in the camera mode is now enable but when i try to send, it says "No MMS Service Record, message cannot be sent. You will only be able to Save Draft."

Users: Kev585 & portablecow, did you guys experience this problem?

Everything worked fine on my old phone (non-smartphone), i know i have multi-media messaging.
Please Help... anyone

Hello everyone... My first post, please be kind!

JP, ive got this same problem you did.... What did you do to finally get it to work?

Thanks!
Brian

[cliffr39]

Originally Posted by HDGasser

Hello everyone... My first post, please be kind!

JP, ive got this same problem you did.... What did you do to finally get it to work?

Thanks!
Brian

welcome, so you have a BB but no data plan? Who is your carrier (would be best to fill in all that info about device/carrier into your profile so we can help).

[tabybaby5]

Originally Posted by jpnelson35

Nevermind, now its working.

What's weird though is that now the ATT store guys are telling me that im getting charges 1 cent per kilobyte on the MMS picture messages even though i have unlimited media messaging. That would be over $2 a picture.

I have unlimited multimedia messaging and i cant find any info anywhere about a 1 cent per Kb charge. I talked to customer service, they say to wait for the bill to see if my data charges match the same times and dates as when i sent the messages. They said i shouldnt be getting charged.

This is really weird. If they are charging me, I will have a few hundred dollar phone bill. (I have been sending over a dozen a day at 250 kb.) I talked to a retired lawyer about my situation and he said if they are charging me, he could hook me up with some lawyers, because it would be a huge deal.

Has anybody heard anything about this 1 cent per kilo charge on ATT. The store manager said i can send unlimited messages but then i gt charged for the data that goes along with them. If so, how is the consumer able to find this information. The store clerk said that that information is only available by knowledge, it is not documented anywhere. I guess i just have to wait for the bill.

okay, mine says the same thing. i tried powering off my bb to see if it would work, but it didnt. how did you get yours to actually send?

[smccausl]

mms messages use internet to upload the picture to be sent on a nonsmartphone that charge is free with a text plan with a smartphone only text messages are cover mms messages are charges .01 cent a kilobyte that just how it is because they have bb data plans people who dont have one get charged for internet they use

[eromrab]

Ok people. Here is what I do:

I have AT&T. I have a 8310 curve. I had to tell them I have a "different, non-blackberry phone" so that I could get the MediaNet plan (because it wasn't an option for me when they had the BlackBerry as my phone). Once they updated my info to think I had a RAZR (you will need an IMEI to change the phone with them) I was able to add the unlimited MediaNet package.

Here are some details I've found out (through experience and also through research).

#1 - Unlimited messaging will charge you for pictures if you don't have a data plan. Not for the small pictures (like smileys and all that) but for like... real pictures. I suggest you get the medianet plan. I pay $15/month for mine.

#2 - MMS will not work without the service books. There are a few options for this... you can install a new OS (as explained in the post "I Have Finally Resolved The Mms Problem With The Unlocked 8320 For At&t!" on Blackberryforums dot com - sorry can't link) or you can sign up for the BIS plan, get the servicebooks on your phone, then do what I said earlier (about changing the phone with AT&T, then getting the MediaNet plan...)... I'm not aware of any other ways to do it... I'm currently looking for a way to get the servicebooks without signing up for the BIS/BES or the OS change.

#3 - I cannot do certain BB things... no BB email, no GoogleTalk, no Facebook app, and a few others... to get around this I do Funambol for my "push email" and to sync all my contact, calendar, tasks, and notes information... I do Nimbuzz for my instant messaging, and I do google maps with my GPS... I use the normal medianet browser (you can get opera but I don't like it...). With this, you won't get "all" of the cool features of the BIS plan (I do miss my emails looking like neat little text messages and getting a picture icon that said I had a new email, and just the flawless interactivity that BB email has... but to me it's worth the $15/month that I save!).

#4 - I have been doing this for a few months now. They do not charge extra. I'm not breaking any laws. There is nothing "illegal" about it. It's my phone, I pay for my unlimited data and my unlimited texting. I just don't pay for the BIS stuff that I don't want/need.

Hope that helps someone! Amazing how people will talk like they are experts and say something can't be done, when I'm doing the very things they are saying cannot be done. Do your research people. You're not alone... people just don't know what they're talking about. AT&T reps told me that if I signed up for the unlimited messaging plan that I could send all the pics I wanted for free. Wrong! Next bill got charged a ton, so I called them up and told them what the last rep said and they refunded it. I signed up for the medianet plan and haven't had a prob since!

[rgleason7]

Will I be able to voice using wifi at home where I have weak tower signal? I have at&t and am willing to use my minutes.

[psi chick]

nope. the tour has that feature, but it's not on att. they probably will have a phone out soon that has the cabaility, but as of right now you can't through att. you can use skype to voice though.