i want the 8800
YES- as soon as it becomes available
no- 8800 is my next stop
no- Happy with what I got now
I am not emotionally ready to make that decision yet
YES iPhone 2nd generation- let the work the bugs out first
I don't know about the rest of you guys but I'm gonna stand tall and strong with my BERRY. If I get that phone I might as well downgrade to a SIDEKICK3.like someone else said that phone is aimed at the kids. WOW!!! I get to listen to music and watch movies. If anyone on this site crosses over, I wish for all of the bad things in mobile techknowlogy happen to you and no body else but you!!!!
i want the 8800
Im keeping my 8703e.
I figure that by the time im eligible for an upgrade the 9xxx series BB will be out. I I refuse to pay $600 for the i, or pay full price for the 8800 w/ verizon.
For $600 PS3 > iPhone
Ahh, Man! I just bought new 8700g few days ago. 8700 series, It's not meaning the end of the world because 8800 and Iphone will be relase soon.. I'm not gonna getting upgrade ones. I am going to stick to it without regrets..I am actual satisfity with my Blackberry 8700g I have every momnet!!!
I own an 8700g and love it...its rock solid, but if the iPhone is even half of what is written and demo'd these days, I may make a move to easy synching, music, high-end browsing, visual email, Wi-fi, etc.Originally Posted by XBGM3R
Here is a pre-review from a very non-apple source at infosync.com. They are of the mind it will likely even get better before the release. I have a friend who works at Apple and there is much talk around there about advertising less, and then delivering more in June.
It won't arrive for another six months, yet the iPhone is the talk of the wireless town. Check out our initial -- albeit hands-off -- impressions of this EDGE-enabled, 8GB touch-screen beauty.
It's only been a week since Steve Jobs unveiled the iPhone to an adoring keynote crowd in San Francisco, but the backlash has begun in earnest. While most of us swooned when we saw demos of Steve tapping and flicking his way through album covers, videos of "The Office" and typical three-way conference calls, it didn't take long for the nagging questions to begin. Why no corporate e-mail? You can't open Office files? Only 8GB of memory? What -- no over-the-air music downloads?
Although we haven't seen a review unit yet (indeed, even The New York Times only got an hour to play with the handset), we decided to give the iPhone a closer look, based on the printed specs, the Apple keynote and the observations of those lucky enough to have seen the phone in person. We'd like to stress that this isn't a review, since the iPhone's features may (and hopefully will) change before its release in June.
We haven't been lucky enough to actually hold the iPhone prototype in our hands, but we like what we've seen. The 3.5-inch, 320 x 480 display looks gorgeous, and the much-touted "multi-touch" capability -- which lets you use two-finger moves, such as "pinching" for zooming in photos and e-mail messages -- is a great addition, reminiscent of the two-finger scrolling trackpads installed on Mac laptops. That said, we're pretty concerned about smudging on the screen; even on the streaming Apple keynote video, we saw plenty of fingerprints during Steve Jobs' demo. We're also worried about scratches, especially for those of us who carry our phones in our pockets along with loose change. The first generation Apple iPod nanos were notorious for their easily scratched shells, and while word has it that the iPhone screen will boast a protective coating, we'd like to see it in person.
Measuring 4.5 by 2.4 by 0.46 inches, the iPhone is certainly the thinnest of the slim-smartphone bunch, but by no means is it the lightest; at 4.8 ounces, it's more than an ounce heavier than the Samsung BlackJack (3.5 ounces), and it easily outweighs the Motorola Q (4.1 ounces) and the T-Mobile Dash (4.2 ounces). Still, it's relatively light compared to the hefty Palm Treo 700p (6.4 ounces).
The demo of the iPhone's calling abilities elicited plenty of "oooohs" and "aaaaahs" from the Apple keynote audience, and we can see why -- the phone's calling interface is breathtakingly beautiful, with smooth, intuitive menus and animations that beat just about every other handset out there. Dig a little deeper, however, and there are only a handful of new features, along with some surprising omissions. The quad-band phone's most notable addition is "visual voicemail," which lets you see a list of voice-mail messages that you can tap and play in any order -- nice, considering the archaic, audio-only voice-mail systems offered by the big carriers. The iPhone's conference calling abilities roused a thundering applause from keynote attendees, but honestly, joining, muting and cutting loose callers is nothing new to anyone with a GSM phone. You can access a list of favorite callers by tapping the Favorites button, but there's no evidence of standard, one-touch speed-dialing -- a feature we've come to take for granted. Even worse, Jobs didn't mention voice recognition or voice dialing at all, although we imagine (and hope) that it will be added in some form before the June launch. Finally, it's unclear whether you'll be able to use your MP3s or iTunes Music Store songs as ringtones. Back on the plus side, the phone supports Bluetooth calling (no word on stereo Bluetooth).
The iPhone's messaging abilities are robust for a standard calling phone, but they're actually a bit weak compared to your average smartphone. Again, we love the look of the iPhone mail app, which displays rich HTML messages with aplomb, and you can pull down your messages from IMAP and POP servers. In a nice bonus, Yahoo has agreed to allow free push IMAP e-mail to all Yahoo Mail users (sorry Gmail fans, no push for you). But for now at least, the iPhone doesn't appear to support Exchange, BlackBerry or any other kind of corporate message server -- a major drawback compared to smartphones such as the Moto Q or the Treo 700p. And while you get threaded SMS in an iChat-looking interface (similar to threaded messaging on the 700p or the new Treo 750), there's no instant messaging at all, not even Apple's AIM-compatible iChat service. Of course, there's no reason Apple couldn't offer software upgrades for corporate e-mail or IM, but remember that Steve Jobs told The New York Times that the iPhone is a closed-platform device -- no third-party applications, period. That means any upgrades would have to come from Apple itself, which makes the outlook for an AIM/ICQ/MSN/Yahoo IM client look cloudy, at best. Finally, those who have tried the iPhone's virtual keypad reported that it's tougher to use than a physical smartphone thumbboard, although we like the idea of pressing a virtual "symbols" button rather than fumbling with soft or "alt" keys.
Music and video
We had high expectations for the music and video apps on the iPhone, and we weren't disappointed. Perhaps the biggest "wow" feature for music is Apple's Cover Flow, with lets you flip through a virtual shelf of album covers; once you play a song, you get the album art and a series of music controls, and clicking the album cover flips the art around to reveal a track list. You can also flick track and album lists up or down with your fingertip -- pretty cool -- and you can play music in the background while you perform other tasks. Meanwhile, you can turn the iPhone sideways to watch full-screen video, complete with translucent playback controls. As our friends at CNET.com pointed out, the iPhone screen has an odd 1.5:1 aspect ratio in landscape view, which is a little narrower than the typical wide-screen 1:71:1 (or 16x9) aspect ratio; however, using the "pinch" motion, you can shrink the screen image to watch your videos with letterboxing. Now for the bad news: you can't download music or video over-the-air via iTunes (not a big shock, considering the iPhone's EDGE-only data abilities), and you can't sync your PC- or Mac-based content over Wi-Fi or Bluetooth (at least, that's the word for now). We're also disappointed by the 8GB upper-limit for flash memory -- not bad for tunes, but considering that an hour-long TV episode takes up close to 500MB, that 8GB suddenly starts looking a bit restrictive. Then again, given the variety of iPods on the market, we wouldn't be surprised to see new, future iPhones with even bigger storage capacities.
So, where's Microsoft Office for Mac Mobile, you ask? Or maybe Apple has its own mobile office suite up its sleeves? Unfortunately, the answer seems to be "no" -- you can't edit or even open Word, Excel or PowerPoint files as you can on a Treo 700p or any number of Windows Mobile devices. Word is that the iPhone e-mail client will let you view PDFs, but other than that, the lack of productivity apps is a serious disappointment. Still, as with corporate messaging, there's no reason Apple couldn't release a mobile office suite sometime in the future -- at least, that's what we're hoping.
Google Maps, Widgets and third-party apps
The crowd at Macworld was agog during the demo of Google Maps on the iPhone -- look, it's the Washington Monument! And you can see people down there! -- so much so, in fact, that we're thinking most of them haven't seen Google Maps on a Treo, which has all the same features as the iPhone version, right down to the ability to direct-dial the nearest Starbucks and order 4,000 lattes.
Widgets look promising; for now, there are two of the little mini-apps, one for weather and another for stocks. We're concerned, however, by Steve Jobs' no-third-party-apps rule, not only from a Widgets standpoint (the lion's share of Widgets for Mac OS X come from third-party developers), but also from a mobile-app viewpoint in general. Jobs says he's worried about having alien applications on a device as delicate as a phone: "The last thing you want is to have loaded three apps on your phone and then you go to make a call and it doesn't work anymore," Jobs told the New York Times. Interesting point, except we haven't heard too many reports of Treos or Windows Mobile phones crashing because of a rogue third-party program. Hopefully, our man Steve will have a change of heart as time moves on.
Much has been made about the iPhone's lack of 3G UMTS/HSDPA capabilities, so we won't belabor the obvious, except to say that we hope Jobs follows up on his promise for a 3G iPhone sometime in the future (preferably with laptop tethering). We're also curious to see seamless Wi-Fi switching in action, although it seems clear that there's no voice-over-Wi-Fi in the picture.
Yes, 600 big ones (or 500 for the 4GB model) is a pretty high price to pay for a phone that doesn't include everything and the kitchen sink, but then again, Apple has never been shy about hefty price tags. Rather, it's the mandatory two-year contract with Cingular that gets under our collective skin. How Apple and Cingular could have the nerve to foist a two-year service agreement on us without any subsidies is beyond us.
Final thoughts (for now, at least)
Sure, we have our complaints, but we're still on pins and needles to see the iPhone in action. While we're bummed by the lack of 3G, limited memory and dearth of productivity apps, we think the iPhone's revolutionary interface will deliver a much-needed kick in the pants to a wireless industry that's been content with clunky, hard-to-use interfaces for all too long. Also, keep in mind that the very first iPod -- the clunky, monochrome 5GB model that we all loved -- has come a long ways since 2001.
8GB or 4GB of flash memory
E-mail; IMAP, POP3, Yahoo Mail
Safari Web brower
Slimmed-down version of OS X
Music and full-screen video
Measures 4.5 by 2.4 by 0.46 inches
Price and availability
Available in June from Cingular, the Apple iPhone will retail for $499 (4GB) or $599 (8GB) with a two-year contract.
P.S. Here is the price of the new BB 8800....its no cheaper than the iPhone!!
Just got a tip from one of my Cingular sources givin' us a heads up on the pricing for the BlackBerry 8800. It will go as follows
$299 with 2-year activation
$499 to buy it outright
The Cingular version will start shipping on February 20th.
There is however one big difference - the BlackBerry is a proven platform with a great track record & world-class support.
~via BB 8700c (wap.pinstack.com)~
Originally Posted by archer6
Agreed. I'm just surprised when people talk about $500 phones. It seems the going rate these days for the new gadget on the block.
Yes, it's true that $500 does indeed seem to be a fairly common price point. However I have found that with a positive approach, some patience and perserverance (at least with Cingular) there is room to negotiate the price down further than the basic upgrade price. Then one is in a much more reasonable space.Originally Posted by wclyffe
~via BB (wap.pinstack.com)~iphone is just a rip off and steve jobs is an idiot, the ihouse cmon this guy must smoke crack did you see his presentation of the iphone....and anna nicole is dead yeeehaaaaw
Don't agree...loved it!Originally Posted by MykR0
im waiting for a pearl with 3g, wifi, and gps. no other phone is worth my trouble.
pearl all the way!!
Subject to it working (Apple's famous cruddy battery problems aside) I will be getting one as soon as they come out (well - as soon as everyone else has suffered the teething problems and they come up with the 2nd generation iphone).
In the UK however, we have one small problem - there is not one proper carrier that is professional enough or technical enough to support it.
We can't even get proper coverage in the uk with what we do have. So it will require a serious player in the game to carry it sucessfully - so my money will be on a german network. In the wrong hands - it will will fail miserably.