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    Why Would RIM Choose Verizon Wireless to Launch Most Anticipated 3G Device?

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    Back in 2004/2005 Verizon launched their CDMA based 3G network. Verizon's EVDO is about twice the speed of EDGE. Also, notice the coverage comparison above between Verizon's 3G and AT&T's 3G.

    Leaves one wondering... the 3G iPhone or RIM's 3G 9530, which will truly be twice as fast? It would seem that Verizon's 3G service will be more widely available for RIM's launch of what we like to call it the "Thunderstorm". Plus, the processors on both the 9000 and 9530 are double the processing speed of the 83xx, 81xx etc.

    Of course, while there are MANY reasons which play a role in deciding which carrier(s) and on what terms a new device is launched, mobile networks have been playing a larger role recently as they try to keep up with device hardware advancements.

    This should also chip-in on the outcome of future customer satisfaction surveys for device data services.

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    Thanks for the info. hayden.

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    It makes sense from a business perspective.

    First off, the Thunder/Storm is a direct competitor to the iPhone. Therefore, it doesn't make sense for RIM to want to release it on AT&T, the largest GSM carrier in the country, which has an exclusivity deal with Apple for the aforementioned iPhone.

    So, assuming RIM doesn't want to release the iPhone competitor on the iPhone network, where does it go? Verizon makes the most sense. Second largest competitor, not getting the Bold any time soon, and could use a flagship BlackBerry.

    Also, I can almost guarantee that VZW threw a ton of cash at RIM to make this an exclusive.

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    Decent 3g coverage would pull me to a carrier (like Verizon) except if the BB that's offered is a touch screen unit, NO. That's the only thing that would end my BB love affair is if all BB's were touch screen. I'll never go that route - it's a personal preference but it's a solid dislike.

    However, this is a great article!
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    Quote Originally Posted by wha2sie View Post
    I have the 8320 and I've been looking for the OS upgrade. I wanted to find out first though if it is worth getting the beta version? Whats your advice?

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    Welcome to PinStack, wha2sie!

    I'd recommend you start by updating your profile to the correct device and then read through this thread:

    http://blackberryforums.pinstack.com/firstvisit.php

    Then, there are specific topics already going which might be a more appropriate place for you to ask this question and therefore get you a quicker response!
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    Well for me there are a few reasons for not going with verizon. First, though verizon has 3g speeds their network isn't true 3g since you can't do voice and data at the same time. Second I don't want to be on a network that cripples their devices. Third, in my area there are spots where the phone will say that there is full coverage but I can't do data and phone calls and the vzw tech has told me this is a known issue with my area. Oh and I'm on at&t and had verizon as my work cell before I was laid off so that's the only reason I know this.~via BB (wap.pinstack.com)~

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    I really like the Bold but the only 3G near me is Memphis so I am torn on rather to get it when it finally comes out. But I notice Verizon has 3G closer to me but still not in my area of living and working. Plus my sister has Verizon and I get better service here with at&t then she does. It really depends on where you live as to what carrier to chose.
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    great read finally EVDO is twice as fast as EDGE,people with BB tryed to compare the two,no comparision.ty
    and that means that the BOLD is going to be on edge mode,because att 3g stinks,and the only way for it to get better is new towers.lol the point of having a BB is speed,nobody feels like waiting. GREAT post
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    Thank you Hayden. You're making my decision much easier now. I was originally thinking of upgrading with AT&T since my contract's up on September with them. But looking at this makes me wanna go to Verizon and get me my Thunder when it comes out. I'm gonna drag it til it's released then I'll go to Verizon. Hopefully they won't kill my gps on the thunder once it's released...on Verizon that is.

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    I can't wait for the Thunder/Storm!!

    Just hope it's not severly crippled.
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    This one should be interesting. We've seen the control Apple has over at&t with the iPhone. I wonder if RIM will decide to pull similar stings. I've already read that the exclusive factor only remains if Verizon can hit the sales quota.

    I have to say though I hope this phone doesn't get the same GPS treatment certain other BlackBerrys have experienced on Verizon. That could be a deal breaker.

    It would be nice to see Verizon add a special data plan for this new BlackBerry as well. Something more all inclusive instead of pay per feature. Or maybe a special voice plan. Smart phones have been left out in the rain for awhile now ever since the Premium plans showed up.

    I think RIM's strategy is the right idea let's just hope Verizon takes this one straight to the bank with no games.

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    Also, I can almost guarantee that VZW threw a ton of cash at RIM to make this an exclusive.[/quote]


    Yeah, that's from all the money that they are making off VZ Nav from disabling GPS. -lol

    This might be the next step:

    "For our customer's protection, we have had to disable the touch-screen as well, so no one can illegally obtain our customer's finger-print from the device...." -VZW -We never stop trying to take your money.

    Oh well, just venting...outside of that, no major issues w/VZW.

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    CDMA isn't a #G network at best it.s 2.5g with evdo rva HSDPA is 3.5g
    so theres part of your answer>
    NOW for the other part.
    ubenknownst to most americans CDMA is only used in 15%work only half of wich is used in the US telsetra in the land down under took therws down for GSM an HSDPA>
    THat Being said GSM is USD world GSM stands for Gobal Sysytems Managment usn in north america central americ a south amrica eroupe aise You get the idea and along with Subscriber Information Module cards and the the ability to unlock the phones so they can bey used on ANY gsm network < it is a bigger market for manufacturs like RIM
    CDMA is a dramaticly smaller market the only time the cdma market sees a version of it's gsm counterpart is if the GSM varient has sold real well or is near the end of it's lifecycle in the GSM market.

    CDMA devices are locked to that carrier after branding more security codes between the network an the device aas well as the IP and MAC adress of the CDMA handset with GSM you need a single unlock code to remove the SP lock.


    so in busness sense it would not make sense ti would not make sense for rim to produce thaat many CDMA devices over GSM

    Another reason not to go with verizon besids crippliing devices
    is they help the FEDS spy on you domesticy listeten in anytime on your conversations rummage through your records ect. for no reason at all WITHOUT A WARENT . wich is pretty much illegal and if you don't belive me

    Google : "verizon helps the feds spy on you"
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    Quote Originally Posted by galvatron View Post
    Another reason not to go with verizon besids crippliing devices
    is they help the FEDS spy on you domesticy listeten in anytime on your conversations rummage through your records ect. for no reason at all WITHOUT A WARENT . wich is pretty much illegal and if you don't belive me

    Google : "verizon helps the feds spy on you"
    And are you not aware that AT&T was also spying on you?


    They all spy on us in some shape or form, just that others have not gotten caught yet.

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