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    BlackBerry Storm being hit hard by New York Times' Writer

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    Although extreme, compared to my brief article about my Storm concerns, David Pogue's New York Times article entitled "BlackBerry Storm Downgraded to a Depression" writes: "The Storm offers two degrees of touchiness. You can tap the screen lightly, or you can press firmly to register the palpable click.

    It’s not a bad idea. In fact, it ought to make the on-screen keyboard feel more like actual keys. In principle, you could design a brilliant operating system where the two kinds of taps do two different things. Tap lightly to type a letter — click fully to get a pop-up menu of accented characters (é, č, ë and so on). Tap lightly to open something, click fully to open a shortcut menu of options. And so on.

    Unfortunately, RIM has completely botched the execution.


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    David Pogue - Arrogant Apple Evangelist

    For those who may not be familiar with who David Pogue is, I can tell you that he's Apple's secret weapon. The James Bond of AppleLand.

    He is the "only" journalist to be given a look at the iPhone before it's debut. Then to take it a step further, behind closed doors he was allowed to use the iPhone so the very moment it was released, he could write a glowing report about the phone that "would change the way we communicate".

    In fact he and Steve Jobs are fast friends. A very long time Apple Evangelist, Pogue has a long history of sucking up to Apple and writing glowing reports about Apple products, no matter what the facts are. Each year when MacWorld San Francisco rolls around he's already seen whatever the "secret product" is that is about to be unveiled on stage by Jobs. He is a one man talking Apple commercial. So that my friends are the facts as I know them. No guessing, no golly gee wiz, but cold hard facts of who this man is and the role he plays.

    Therefore it's no surprise that the article he's written is quite critical of the Storm. The very presence of our new BlackBerry Storm makes Jobs sweat bullets. You will notice that I did not say our Superior Storm, better than the iPhone. Why? Because at the heart of the Storm is the famous BlackBerry functionality which is focused first and foremost on communications, not fun, or games or movies. It's a smartphone... get it?

    Whereas the iPhone is an entertainment device first and foremost. Let's face it, the fact that it lacks so many of the essential basics (cut & paste, on and on) is proof positive that it's still aimed at a target market different from the focal point of the Storm. While closer now than ever, as the Storm is indeed a touch screen phone, there is still enough of a difference for the Storm to be wildly successful if public acceptance is what RIM expects it to be. After all, texting alone is a reason to choose the Storm over the iPhone.

    All the specifics aside, the bottom line is simply this. Apple is on generation 2 of the iPhone, and has had time to refine it. RIM is a generation behind. Give them time and the scales may tilt in favor of the Storm, then Jobs and Apples worst fears will have come true.

    Cheers...
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    Quote Originally Posted by archer6 View Post
    For those who may not be familiar with who David Pogue is, I can tell you that he's Apple's secret weapon. The James Bond of AppleLand.

    He is the "only" journalist to be given a look at the iPhone before it's debut. Then to take it a step further, behind closed doors he was allowed to use the iPhone so the very moment it was released, he could write a glowing report about the phone that "would change the way we communicate".

    In fact he and Steve Jobs are fast friends. A very long time Apple Evangelist, Pogue has a long history of sucking up to Apple and writing glowing reports about Apple products, no matter what the facts are. Each year when MacWorld San Francisco rolls around he's already seen whatever the "secret product" is that is about to be unveiled on stage my Jobs. He is a one man talking Apple commercial. So that my friends are the facts as I know them. No guessing, no golly gee wiz, but cold hard facts of who this man is and the role he plays.

    Therefore it's no surprise that the article he's written is quite critical of the Storm. The very presence of our new BlackBerry Storm makes Jobs sweat bullets. You will notice that I did not say our Superior Storm, better than the iPhone. Why? Because at the heart of the Storm is the famous BlackBerry functionality which is focused first and foremost on communications, not fun, or games or movies. It's a smartphone... get it?

    Whereas the iPhone is an entertainment device first and foremost. Let's face it, the fact that it lacks so many of the essential basics (cut & paste, on and on) is proof positive that it's still aimed at a target market different from the focal point of the Storm. While closer now than ever, as the Storm is indeed a touch screen phone, there is still enough of a difference for the Storm to be wildly successful if public acceptance is what RIM expects it to be. After all, texting alone is a reason to choose the Storm over the iPhone.

    All the specifics aside, the bottom line is simply this. Apple is on generation 2 of the iPhone, and has had time to refine it. RIM is a generation behind. Give them time and the scales may tilt in favor of the Storm, then Jobs and Apples worst fears will have come true.

    Cheers...
    Amen brother

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    I don't own one, but I have spent a lot of time with the Storm in the store. I have to say I really don't see what the complaints are about. No its not perfect but as far as hardware goes its great. And anything software related can be fixed with OS updates, so in a way that's not a problem.
    A lot of people stand by that other touchscreen phone as if it was made out of gold. I'd say a year and a half later it needs some more work. In my opinion with new ideas its almost impossible to nail it on the first try. I expect that things will take a sharp turn for the better now that RIM has the initial pressure of getting this device out of the gates off their shoulders.

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    Wow that guy must have had a bad day... I think the phone is a personal preference. If you like it, get it... If you don't like it then don't get it...
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    ...not this time

    Quote Originally Posted by archer6 View Post
    For those who may not be familiar with who David Pogue is, I can tell you that he's Apple's secret weapon. The James Bond of AppleLand.

    He is the "only" journalist to be given a look at the iPhone before it's debut. Then to take it a step further, behind closed doors he was allowed to use the iPhone so the very moment it was released, he could write a glowing report about the phone that "would change the way we communicate".

    In fact he and Steve Jobs are fast friends. A very long time Apple Evangelist, Pogue has a long history of sucking up to Apple and writing glowing reports about Apple products, no matter what the facts are. Each year when MacWorld San Francisco rolls around he's already seen whatever the "secret product" is that is about to be unveiled on stage by Jobs. He is a one man talking Apple commercial. So that my friends are the facts as I know them. No guessing, no golly gee wiz, but cold hard facts of who this man is and the role he plays.

    Therefore it's no surprise that the article he's written is quite critical of the Storm. The very presence of our new BlackBerry Storm makes Jobs sweat bullets. You will notice that I did not say our Superior Storm, better than the iPhone. Why? Because at the heart of the Storm is the famous BlackBerry functionality which is focused first and foremost on communications, not fun, or games or movies. It's a smartphone... get it?

    Whereas the iPhone is an entertainment device first and foremost. Let's face it, the fact that it lacks so many of the essential basics (cut & paste, on and on) is proof positive that it's still aimed at a target market different from the focal point of the Storm. While closer now than ever, as the Storm is indeed a touch screen phone, there is still enough of a difference for the Storm to be wildly successful if public acceptance is what RIM expects it to be. After all, texting alone is a reason to choose the Storm over the iPhone.

    All the specifics aside, the bottom line is simply this. Apple is on generation 2 of the iPhone, and has had time to refine it. RIM is a generation behind. Give them time and the scales may tilt in favor of the Storm, then Jobs and Apples worst fears will have come true.

    Cheers...
    It's an old debate tactic to attack the cred of the speaker when the message is unassailable.

    And before my cred is attacked, I hung up my iphone for a E71 and now a Bold, and have never looked back. I'm not a fan of the iPhone for my uses.

    Nevertheless, Pogue is right on in this review. I spent a couple of hours with the Storm and couldn't agree more that the device is a few betas short of being release-worthy. Next day I returned the device and never looked back.

    It is inexcusably buggy and slow, in ways much more profound that the iPhone ever was. RIM really blew it this time.

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    It sounds to me like he needs to get laid.

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    I think archer6 should have his own colum.....LOL

    yeah I hate people who's job it is to be unbiased and report facts and all they do is suck up to whomever will offer them the most........
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    I tried one out briefly in the store and concluded that I prefer the regular keyboard, which surprised me.Like the BOLD,but not enough to switch to ATT.I guess I'll wait to see what's next...

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    Quote Originally Posted by zeze22 View Post
    It's an old debate tactic to attack the cred of the speaker when the message is unassailable.
    I simply stated the facts.
    Quote Originally Posted by zeze22 View Post
    Nevertheless, Pogue is right on in this review. I spent a couple of hours with the Storm and couldn't agree more that the device is a few betas short of being release-worthy. It is inexcusably buggy and slow, in ways much more profound that the iPhone ever was. RIM really blew it this time.
    As a long time Apple customer that has purchased over a dozen laptops, several iPods and other accessories, I have nothing against Apple other than a general dislike for their arrogance and hype. I have enjoyed many PowerBooks & MacBook Pros. I am an advocate of those Apple products that do what they claim and do it well. In addition I believe they have world class industrial design skills that have served them very well.

    Currently I own an iPhone 3G, Storm, and Bold.

    All three of these phones are significant accomplishments. Given the fact that the Bold and Storm are both first generation devices, and the iPhone 3G is second generation, it benefits from the time spent in the hands of the public. This has provided Apple priceless feedback so as to make the iPhone 3G better than the original.

    That said, to proclaim Pogue as right on, is to endorse his exaggerated, highly critical review, and to ignore his outright arrogant "expert" bias, and wholesale trashing of the Storm.

    My Storm, while certainly not perfect, in no way displays the distorted "problems" he claims to have experienced. His statement "I haven’t found a soul who tried this machine who wasn’t appalled, baffled or both." is laughable. He swims in a very small circle of minnows.

    To buy into this mans perspective and "expert" review is certainly anyone's right. Stranger things have occurred.
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    yeah yeah

    Quote Originally Posted by zeze22 View Post
    It's an old debate tactic to attack the cred of the speaker when the message is unassailable.

    And before my cred is attacked, I hung up my iphone for a E71 and now a Bold, and have never looked back. I'm not a fan of the iPhone for my uses.

    Nevertheless, Pogue is right on in this review. I spent a couple of hours with the Storm and couldn't agree more that the device is a few betas short of being release-worthy. Next day I returned the device and never looked back.

    It is inexcusably buggy and slow, in ways much more profound that the iPhone ever was. RIM really blew it this time.
    lol the articl writer you should check his other articles before defending and i have i phone and a storm in front of me rater the storm than the i phone the i is sexy as hell but after fun and cosmetics thats all its not faster than a vw storm running evdo better yet its not as fast as my sprint 8130 running evdo lol great for music and movies but phone leaves alot to be cried about cant lie i like it but will stick with rim and by the way iphone and iphone 3g were buggy from the first to for sum the sixth month so no go on that and the bold was stated by most to be the most buggy smartphone ever releases

    thats my 2 cents holla!

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    opps also notice this is zeze's first poast not gonna rag on you but that screams fanboy to make your first poast to defend one lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by archer6 View Post
    For those who may not be familiar with who David Pogue is, I can tell you that he's Apple's secret weapon. The James Bond of AppleLand.
    I don't recall he's had much positive to say about any RIM device since the iPhone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zeze22 View Post
    It's an old debate tactic to attack the cred of the speaker when the message is unassailable.
    I'd be careful here. In my opinion, it's a bad idea to not check into the source of an article before deciding whether or not to believe what is written.

    I'm not saying that the article may not be correct, but it's very important to know the source of the information. I don't take medical advice from my mechanic and I don't take car advice from my doctor.
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