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    OK, I have installed BB Maps program my Pearl [at least that is what my Desktop Manager Application Loader says].

    When I go into Maps on the Pearl all I see is gray colored grids.

    I guess I need to download maps from somewhere on the net. If so, I imagine I have to log on to a "map site" with the 8100 and install them. Does someone have a link for that and is this correct?

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    Re: Map Question

    They should automatically start to appear when you log into the program.

    The blue arrows should start going and then eventually the grids should start to pop up.

    IMO BBMaps are a complete waste of space on my device.

    Google Maps runs so much quicker.

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    Re: Map Question

    Quote Originally Posted by N8DBB
    They should automatically start to appear when you log into the program.

    The blue arrows should start going and then eventually the grids should start to pop up.

    IMO BBMaps are a complete waste of space on my device.

    Google Maps runs so much quicker.
    Thanks. I found a review of Google Maps and a link to it. Others have also said Google maps works well. I will try that because I am not getting anything but gray colored grids when I click the BB Maps.

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    Here is an article explaining RIM's Maps:

    RIM Navigates New Direction with BlackBerry Maps
    By James Alan Miller
    September 29, 2006

    With the introduction of BlackBerry Pearl by T-Mobile this month, Research In Motion's (RIM) first device with a camera for picture and video and an audio player, the leading enterprise mobile device and wireless e-mail vendor also unveiled a new mapping application, called BlackBerry Maps. The company behind the mapping and location based services for the new feature, which is intended to become a standard part of the BlackBerry OS from now on, is a veteran in the field, Tele Atlas.


    Leveraging Tele Atlas map data, BlackBerry Maps directs users and works together with other BlackBerry applications to enable them to send maps via e-mail and launch them from contacts in their address book, for example.

    PDAStreet recently got a chance to speak with RIM senior product manager David Heit to learn more about BlackBerry Maps and the company's intentions for mapping integration moving forward.
    Heit explained to PDASteet that RIM views mapping as a fundamental feature that many people now need to have access to. RIM wanted to provide a mapping function that fit into its general theme of wireless efficiency and compression, however. This means, as with many other BlackBerry services, the data isn't stored on the device, but is downloaded as needed.

    "It is very much pulling it down," Heit said. "We are not pre-storing the maps on the device." BlackBerry Maps works very similar to Google Local Mobile, but whereas that service downloads full bitmaps, BlackBerry Maps promises better performance by going with scalable vector images.


    With a services that uses bitmap images you are required to download additional bitmaps as you zoom in and out of different areas. BlackBerry Maps, on the other hand, converts the graphical information on a single scalable vector image already downloaded. You're using more mathematical equations and geometry to describe the map.

    "That way in doing that kind of a technique, we're getting about a 10-1 kind of efficiency over a bitmap approach in terms of data transmission. So, if I have to download a megabyte of mapping data via a bitmap, I only need 100 kilobytes on the scalable vector graphics," Heit said.



    If you pick a location and zoom in and out in the application, Heit said you will see a difference in how BlackBerry Maps behaves. "Like street labeling is dynamic. So when you scroll around, the names will scroll down the streets. You're not faced with things having to reload. It's all a little bit more immediate."

    There's the icon on the main page to request the map to location with BlackBerry Maps. Or you can ask for static directions from point A to point B, which you either enter or point at.

    Additional capabilities of the mapping application include, for example, item menus that enable you to get maps to locations listed within the address book.

    RIM already has a couple models with integrated GPS, which would come in handy with an application like BlackBerry Maps. Most don't, however. All the current models do support Bluetooth and are compatible with an external GPS receiver Heit referred to as puck.


    "I can GPS equip that map. I can be driving around and I'm getting a current map of where I'm located."

    While BlackBerry Maps doesn't perform dynamic routing, Tele Atlas, for example, offers its own application with that capablity; but it doesn't use RIM's raw scalable vector data.

    RIM is delivering an API for BlackBerry Maps that will allow third party develops to take advantage of the raw data available, however. Heit said to PDAStreet that RIM is seeing strong demand for this: "It is very extensible for a third party."

    RIM's goal is to have maps available for world wide usage. They currently have maps for the U.S. and Canada, with everything else a work in progress.



    If you have a BlackBerry that runs RIM's BlackBerry OS 4.1 you'll eventually be able to download BlackBerry Maps as an add-on application. Also, devices like the 8700 series, which run OS 4.1, will be upgradeable to platform OS 4.2, the version with BlackBerry Maps that is on the BlackBerry Pearl.

    "And in future releases, moving forward, it will always be part of the standard release," according to Heit. "The Pearl was just the entry point for this application."

    "You'll see additional applications released over time that just make use of it: In some ways that we'll anticipate, and other ways that we never anticipate."

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    Re: Map Question

    My main complaint with it is it runs SLOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWW.

    I have tried the application numerous times, and can never get it to run fast or even remotely fast.

    Yeah, the address book feature is pretty cool, but I just use the 10 preloaded favorites addresses that you can use with google maps.

    Plus, the "satellite view" of google maps comes in handy sometimes too.

    I dunno, to each his own. Maybe when they come up with an update for BBMaps I will try again.

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    Re: Map Question

    Quote Originally Posted by N8DBB
    My main complaint with it is it runs SLOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWW.

    I have tried the application numerous times, and can never get it to run fast or even remotely fast.

    Yeah, the address book feature is pretty cool, but I just use the 10 preloaded favorites addresses that you can use with google maps.

    Plus, the "satellite view" of google maps comes in handy sometimes too.

    I dunno, to each his own. Maybe when they come up with an update for BBMaps I will try again.
    Mine seems to work fine, at a reasonable speed.

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    Re: Map Question

    This is curious, because as stated once downloaded SVG file should be quicker when zooming, but I don't know if they take a lot longer to download originally.

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    Re: Map Question

    Quote Originally Posted by N8DBB
    They should automatically start to appear when you log into the program.

    The blue arrows should start going and then eventually the grids should start to pop up.

    IMO BBMaps are a complete waste of space on my device.

    Google Maps runs so much quicker.
    Well, I can't get anything with BB Maps. The blue arrows show up, but nothing.

    I downloaded Google Maps. Awesome program. Thanks for the tip.

    I have Google Earth on my desktop so getting satellite views on the Pearl is totally cool.

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    Re: Map Question

    help i lost the part on the map that said start GPS on the maps that came on the the blackberry pearl 8100

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    Re: Map Question

    I think you need to have a GPS puck that connects via Bluetooth to use that option.
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