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    Do you have to do a credit check and/or deposit to add another line of service to your account? If you cancel a second and pay ETF, does that show on your credit report?

    In theory you could pay $250 for a new line with the Storm, then do an ESN flip flop to swap devices with old BlackBerry. Then cancel data plan on the new line and put plan down to the $9.99 a month charge.

    In theory you can pay full retail on launch $500 (ish) and not walk out of a store with a device (they will ship it). Or you can pay $250 on launch, leave store with a new Storm, then adjust your account later, $9.99 a month for 24 months is right around $250. $250 + $250 = $500, same price you would pay on launch date, it is just spread out over two years. To step it up a notch, you could then sell your previous device on ebay or craigslist, and put that money directly towards your Verizon account in the form of credit on the account. I don't think verizon would care I had them put a dummy ESN on the second line for the life of the account.

    This is sounding quite tempting to me.

    Any other downsides anyone can think of?
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    just spoke to telesales, no credit check or deposit since I have been with verizon for longer than six months.

    Now what I am curious about is how long do I wait before knocking the second line down to the shared plan ($9.99)? I am pretty sure I won't get the mail in rebate if I choose to get the Storm this way.
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    You forgot a couple of things I've mentioned in this thread: You can't get a line for $9.99/month on a Storm. Verizon BB's have to include a data plan too ($30/mo). So there goes the savings. The other problem is that if you get a discounted Storm and you disconnect it from the Verizon line they will charge your CC the difference between the discount price and the full price ($300). That's to keep you from selling it on ebay as you mentioned. Usually that goes away in 6 months. Trust me, they've already thought of all the ways you can save money. They want as much of your money as they can get and they invented the game, rules, everything!
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    There seems to be conflicting information in this thread. Of course I know I will have to have the second line with a BlackBerry plan up to the swap at least. So I guess I am confused as whether or not verizon would charge you full price for the device if you swapped it to another number on the same account.
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    Here's what you do: call a Verizon rep and tell them your plans and see what they say. Here's what you don't do: Get your info from some dude in a store then act on it/start switching lines so you save money and lo and behold Verizon bills your cc $300 and you're pissed off! I'll just remind you: if you think you're gonna pull a fast one on Verizon and save yourself money think again. And again.
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    That's why I am glad I am with TMO.. They do not make you buy the data plan, so if I ever wanted to add a line to get a new phone without paying retail before my upgrade was due, I would save money. Because, I can choose which phone line has a data plan. Plus, I can switch my sim card to any phone I want with out making it a primary phone line. I use my 8120 and my 8320 and just switch out the sim card. I know TMO is not getting the Storm, but you never know what's coming down the line later on.

    I agree, if you do not have the $ to get it right now and you really, really want the Storm, then adding a line would help, the best thing to do is to give your old BB to a spouse, daughter, son, whoever and have a Family plan. That way no one has to worry about canceling the data plan or switching lines, or dead lines accumulating data charges. Does that make sense? Plus the person you give it to will be very happy to have a BB, don't you think?

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    Well, I guess there are some benefits to TMO. Not sure they outweigh the crap service in my area. I'd rather go with ATT if I wanted to switch sim cards (which IS a nice feature).

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    I wouldn't mind having a Storm, but, the Javelin is the one that I have my eye on and I think TMO is going to get that one in. I have been with TMO for 5 yrs with out any problems, they also let me upgrade our BB's two times within a 3 mo period at the new customer price. I'm not worried about waiting out an upgrade. they have always let me upgrade early. But I do live in a metropolitan area that gets good coverage. Plus my wifi/uma helps as well.

    I just can't justify making the switch to Verizon, no matter how cool the Storm looks. I'm not settling, just going with what has worked for me.
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    This is all a mute point if you have another cheap phone. You can get the new storm on whatever plan VZW sets for you, go home switch the storm to your main line and then put the cheap phone on the new line done via online "MY ACCOUNT". Go into your local store and change the rate plan on your "now" cheap phone line to a $9.99 line and go on. This is a $9.99 per month increase to your bill for 24 months assuming that you had data, text, etc on your main line with your other BB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcschultz View Post
    This is all a mute point if you have another cheap phone. You can get the new storm on whatever plan VZW sets for you, go home switch the storm to your main line and then put the cheap phone on the new line done via online "MY ACCOUNT". Go into your local store and change the rate plan on your "now" cheap phone line to a $9.99 line and go on. This is a $9.99 per month increase to your bill for 24 months assuming that you had data, text, etc on your main line with your other BB.
    I am glad someone gets it. It is a lot simpler than people are making this out to be.

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    I confirmed yesterday with a rep who said its the same thing she and a few of her friends are doing as well. It's not really a big deal at all. I just need to find an old VZW cell to downgrade the 2nd number after my initial device swap (or just dummy out the ESN.)

    Hooray, getting a device at launch like everybody else, lol.

    I don't see it as "getting one over on Verizon," more of subsidizing the cost of full retail over the course of two years.
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    Read all the fine print is all I can say. I know, everybody's an expert at figuring out how to get a free lunch. The problem I can see is making the switches on the lines and the plan that goes with the lines in conjuction with getting what amounts to $300 off on the phone. I don't care what the reps say they're doing. The place that sends you the bill is what you care about. If they say go for it then go for it. I'm just saying don't just do the thing on your own and assume they won't charge you extra. Trust me, straightening out a messed up Verizon bill is not fun even if it's their fault. It caused me to ditch them almost 2 years ago with my wife's LG ENV.
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    I work with Verizon corporate and government accounts every single day (i don't work @ Verizon), I am pretty confident I will not be shooting myself in the foot.

    Although, if in fact I am wrong, it won't be the first time.

    If all else fails, I do all of this within the first 30 days, If they try to charge me full price (highly unlikely as I am not cancelling a line) I will just return the device all together and get my money back, No harm-no foul. 30 day exchange is a piece of cake.
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