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    Question Push without BES

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    Hi everybody,

    Great to see a new developer's forum! I was wondering if there are any documented methods of pushing data to BlackBerry without access to the BES/MDS server. Browser channel push, cache push, etc. all seem to require BES (which makes sense, I guess).

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    Yes i've heard it's posible via xml.

    Hmmm... v4.0 uses MIDP 2.0 for PUSH services there a lot of info about MIDP here. Maybe you will find something there:

    http://developers.sun.com/techtopics...icles/pushreg/

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    Re: Push without BES

    You most certainly can do this without a BES. I've built an app that sends XML-formatted messages to handhelds via email. When you send to the devices direct "@carrier.blackberry.net" address, the delivery is immediate.
    Use the built-in APIs to listen to the inboxes for incoming messages, and when your app sees a message with a certain subject line, or from address etc, you can invoke the built-in XML parser to pull out the data. No BES required.
    (I then send messages back to the my server (a set of Perl CGI scripts) using a simple HTTP GET via the builtin browser methods. All of the above is well documentedin the Application Developer Guide PDFs on the RIM developers site.

    Cheers, and happy coding.

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    Re: Push without BES

    Darren,

    That's exactly what I first thought of doing -- I'm very glad to hear it is possible!

    Though this MIDP Push Registry thing is pretty interesting -- it basically just creates a listener on a particular TCP/UDP port that a server can send data to as needed.

    Not sure which approach I like better. Filtering messages sounds messier, but I think it would have lower overhead on the server side.

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    Re: Push without BES

    do you guys know how to set up the blackberry to function online without BES? i have found some instruction but no luck yet getting it to work, i put in the APN and it still says data connection refused. so im not sure what to do.. i have a 7280 and i run on cellular one.. anyone have any suggestions?

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    Re: Push without BES

    cadetstimpy, Please read the responses to your other posts on the same subject.

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