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    Article: RIM Woes...

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    All the bets are on the one horse - BB10. If this has a minor hiccup, RIM is off to the undertakers for cremation.

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    Yeah, the hiring of JP Morgan is very telling. Makes one wonder if they're ready to sell.

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    While I am not saying that RIM are on the right road articles like this can be spun either way. The author of this one has a negative view. One can just easily pick positive points like:
    220% increase in Apps since last year
    15000 playbook adds
    User base increases to 78 million
    Restructuring company to be more efficient
    BlackBerry 10 nearing release

    Putting nails in a coffin may be a bit early

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    I think this kind of story has been in the works for a while now. They have been hurt by both the economy and Apple/Android and the like.

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    Story? This is a press release from RIM.

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    This could go either way - Apple was in similar straits before Steve went back to work for them and turned them around. What concerns me about RIM is that other companies that were in trouble and baled themselves out did so with innovative, new, game-changing products. Again, Apple is the prime example. RIM doesn't look like they have anything Earth-shattering on the horizon, and that (to my thinking) is the concern. I think the only people excited about OS10 are people that are already BlackBerry users. RIM needs to launch something different, that changes things, just like the Eye Phone changed Apple and our industry. I agree with Dave that it's too early to put nails in the coffin - RIM is not as weak as Palm was - but they need to follow Nokia's example and do something besides pin their hopes on a new OS. Just sayin' - -
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    Mark, I agree with you.

    The thing that saved Apple was the iPod/iTunes. There were other MP3 players prior to the iPod. However, Apple made it easy for users to purchase songs and put those songs on iPods. Pretty soon, just about all other MP3 players faded into obscurity. It also helped that DRM only allowed songs purchased from iTunes to be played on iPods, not any other MP3 players without workarounds.

    What product could RIM release that is either brand new or completely revolutionary at this point in time?
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    Pardon my lack of imagination, but I don't think RIM (like me) can't even start to think about it. What is there? The only viable (probable) innovation comes in the form of a social network based phone, and FB has got that cornered already. What else?
    I can't see it. Oh, what about ESP... this borders the ridiculous, but that´s how far forward RIM thinking will have to go.
    Otherwise, it's like any another manufacturer around. With their own eco-system. BB10. If that sneezes, RIM will catch pneumonia and die...

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    How about a really good OS. Compatible or better than Android/IOS but Secure? May pick up a few of the big two customers + get back into the business community. Don't write them off they may surprise you. Try a PlayBook and you'll get addicted BB 10 will be the same. You would be surprised how many tab users after seeing the Playbook working are considering changing especially at its low price

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    You right. There's hope always. But coming back from the brink will take more than the security concerns. That's like a niche market nowadays. And maybe that could be a salvation. And then we look at specialist products and high pricing.
    Smartphones have evolved passed that. Mass consumerism is targeted.

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    Currently traveling in Moscow, so haven't had much opportunity to get online. There will always be a market for a secure phone maybe not for your average consumer but the market is there. With regards to Apple if it wasn't for Bill Gates investment they may not have made it. It was the Ipods and ITunes that saved them shows we all love music. I constantly thank Apple for that especially when traveling and moving from country to country
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    Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE 9.0; Windows NT 6.1; Trident/5.0; XBLWP7; ZuneWP7))

    Quote Originally Posted by dushdavj
    Currently traveling in Moscow, so haven't had much opportunity to get online. There will always be a market for a secure phone maybe not for your average consumer but the market is there. With regards to Apple if it wasn't for Bill Gates investment they may not have made it. It was the Ipods and ITunes that saved them shows we all love music. I constantly thank Apple for that especially when traveling and moving from country to country
    Unfortunately, I still cannot post via any desktop browser.

    Microsoft is given more credit than it deserves in Apple's comeback. http://www.zdnet.com/blog/apple/stop-the-lies-the-day-that-microsoft-saved-apple/7036

    Still. I'd love to see a comeback by RIM. The more choices available, the better it is for the consumer.
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