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    AT&T agrees to first constantly connected third-party iPhone app

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    Some may recall me posting about the iPhone App "Loopt" Here. There has been an update and not just any ol' update. Read below from AppleInsider

    With users' permission, the social networking iPhone application Loopt will report the phone's current location even when the software isn't running, based on a new agreement with AT&T.

    In a report from Silicon Alley Insider, Loopt cofounder Sam Altman said the always-connected feature has been the most requested from users. The service allows people to track where their friends are at any given moment, a task difficult to constantly maintain on the iPhone, which doesn't currently allow third-party applications to run in the background.

    Ordinarily, closing the application would cease any connections, but the new AT&T-sanctioned feature comes with a price: The always-on capability will add $3.99 to a monthly AT&T bill, after the 14-day trial. The initial trial will be open to 5,000 users.

    According to the report, the new deal doesn't change the policy on third-party apps -- think of it more like a service than the entire Loopt application running in the background. It says that the application is running "server-to-server," with AT&T's help, but the application itself does not run in the background.

    "Because Apple's iPhone doesn't yet support background processing for third-party apps, Loopt ordinarily only knows where you are when you're actively pinging its servers," the report states. "That's not as useful. (And a limitation Loopt doesn't have to deal with on other platforms.) But that's changing via this new deal.

    "It also gives Loopt an advantage over competitors, like Google's Latitude service, which you must manually activate every time you want to 'check in.'"

    With the new feature, users will be able to receive alerts when they are near people or places they're interested in. Altman also said that users could create a "life graph" of places they've been.

    Earlier this year, Apple was rumored to be mulling the possibility of allowing true multi-tasking on the iPhone. So far, though, the Cupertino, Calif., company has only enabled push notifications. Concerns about poor battery life with multiple applications running at once have had the handset maker allow one program at a time (aside from first-party features like the iPod) since the App Store first opened.

    At the Worldwide Developers Conference in 2008, Apple was critical of background applications on smartphones, arguing that users are often led to believe that they have quit programs when they remain open, thus reducing battery life and hurting processor performance.

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    This could be huge for advertisers. Like in Minority Report with the billboards talking to Tom Cruise. Imagine walking down the road and an app you use that relies on advertisements, such as Pandora, pings you with a notice of a deal from the store a block up the road. Geographical targeting of users would open up a whole new market potential. It also ties in nicely with the location aware feature Apple is looking into with it's iPhone.
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    I think its a bad idea, I like the ability to turn off when people can see where i am. It feels like we are getting closer to 1984.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MStrawder View Post
    This could be huge for advertisers. Like in Minority Report with the billboards talking to Tom Cruise. Imagine walking down the road and an app you use that relies on advertisements, such as Pandora, pings you with a notice of a deal from the store a block up the road. Geographical targeting of users would open up a whole new market potential. It also ties in nicely with the location aware feature Apple is looking into with it's iPhone.
    I agree this is going to prove to be a very handy feature the iPhone will lead the way with (augmented reality). It's no secret I'm 100% against Ad's so I hope we have the ability to turn them off. If I want something I will seek it out on my own terms, I don't need anyone coming to my electronic door selling bibles or anything else. I am excited to see what 2010 brings us. There should be some great new Apps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RemyKirin View Post
    I think its a bad idea, I like the ability to turn off when people can see where i am. It feels like we are getting closer to 1984.
    Well, this is a feature for this particular app and it's expected that if you're using it, you understand this is a component of it. I also do not like the idea of people being able to see where I am at all times and it's not something I would use for that purpose, but in the case of a traffic app that constantly knew where I was and could alert me on-the-fly would be great. That's the major advantage I see to this type of technology.
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    AT&T is having issues with its servers because so many people are using the iPhone already. If they plan on doing something like this they need to upgrade their network and catch up with demand first. If not all the non-iPhone users will get so tired of the dropped calls and unable to connects that they will look else where. I am not on AT&T and from past experiences never will be but from what I have read over the past few days their not even able to keep up with what they offer now. How can they offer more?

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