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    Photo of the new Blackberry 8707v

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    Re: BlackBerry 8707v - soon officially announced

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    Damn it! And I just got a 8700. Gotta upgrade again!

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    Re: BlackBerry 8707v - soon officially announced

    Prolly just upgrade the casing and o/s looks mighty sharp thou! I like it.

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    Re: BlackBerry 8707v - soon officially announced

    Yup, the os looks nice on the image.

    Center button kinda seems to be a "soft key"... though why theres only one, I dunno... probably just the text [menu] being there makes me think its a soft key when it's just telling you whats on screen.
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    Re: BlackBerry 8707v - soon officially announced

    hmm very nice i like it. funny cause i just recently upgraded to the 8700. i do see something very interesting, top right hand side, i see a "3G" icon, do i smell UMTS capable for the states. would be nice.

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    Re: BlackBerry 8707v - soon officially announced

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    Nice! I wonder if it supports EDGE and 3G. It would be a step backward for some of us in the US since Cingular 3G has so little coverage.

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    Re: BlackBerry 8707v - soon officially announced

    i havent gotten the 8700 yet....lol TEASE!

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    Re: BlackBerry 8707v - soon officially announced

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    Heh, according to the article it is GPRS and 3G. No edge. Being a Rogers customer, having both would be pointless. When they roll out a new technology, its a 100% of the network. God bless Ted Rogers. I'm still very happy with my 8700r, 3G would almost be too fast for a BB with no multimedia functions or expandable memory, what'll you download!?

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    Re: BlackBerry 8707v - soon officially announced

    Quote Originally Posted by dtx
    3G would almost be too fast for a BB with no multimedia functions or expandable memory, what'll you download!?
    Guess you don't user the browser much?

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    Re: BlackBerry 8707v - soon officially announced

    Quote Originally Posted by dtx
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    Heh, according to the article it is GPRS and 3G. No edge. Being a Rogers customer, having both would be pointless. When they roll out a new technology, its a 100% of the network. God bless Ted Rogers. I'm still very happy with my 8700r, 3G would almost be too fast for a BB with no multimedia functions or expandable memory, what'll you download!?
    It can't be GPRS & 3G without EDGE... GPRS + EDGE go together to run on the gsm network, 1xRTT (CDMA2000) & EVDO (3G) is on CDMA networks. [The only exception would be that it includes 2 radio's... but AFAIK no phone in the world has ever done both GSM & CDMA]

    So either it's GPRS & EDGE on GSM... or its 1xRTT (First phase of 3G; CDMA2000) & EVDO (3G) on CDMA. - 1xRTT is about the same speed as GPRS, so that may be why it's listed as GPRS... but it's not the same thing.

    It's also possible that they listed EDGE as 3G, since it offers *similar* speeds to EVDO (3G)... but generally speaking EDGE is an upgrade on the 2G network; some simply refer to it as 2.5G. - Technically EDGE can't go as fast as EVDO (3G); but in real world tests, it comes out very similar.
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    Re: BlackBerry 8707v - soon officially announced

    Quote Originally Posted by andrebsd
    It can't be GPRS & 3G without EDGE... GPRS + EDGE go together to run on the gsm network, 1xRTT (CDMA2000) & EVDO (3G) is on CDMA networks. [The only exception would be that it includes 2 radio's... but AFAIK no phone in the world has ever done both GSM & CDMA]
    I guess you haven't seen the battery door of the 8707v. It clearly has the words "CDMA by Qualcomm" imprinted on it.

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    Re: BlackBerry 8707v - soon officially announced

    Quote Originally Posted by takeshi
    I guess you haven't seen the battery door of the 8707v. It clearly has the words "CDMA by Qualcomm" imprinted on it.
    Ummm... ok. Thats nice; it still doesn't change anything I said in reply to "dtx"

    Being CDMA; Then they listed the GPRS part incorrectly within the article. It's going to be 1xRTT; not GPRS.
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    Re: Photo of the new Blackberry 8707v

    In order for a device to be considered 3G, it only has to meet certain speed requirements.

    On the GSM Side:
    GPRS is 2.5G
    EDGE is 2.75G
    UMTS is 3G
    HSPDA is 3.5G

    Also, UMTS uses W-CDMA, which is owned by Qualcomm. HSPDA is an updated version of UMTS, so it also uses WCDMA. Both of these are data networks for GSM... do not think that because Qualcomm is listed on it that it will be a Verizon phone.
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    Lightbulb Re: Photo of the new Blackberry 8707v

    From what I see here and on PhoneScoop and SlashDot ...


    No one seems to know what 3G really is.


    HERE IS WHAT I [KNOW]

    1A.) YES. - It needs to fulfill certain speed requirements.

    1B.) YES. - It needs to be able to utilize both voice and DATA at the same time.
    (So when I'm on the phone I can still surf the World.Wide.Web.)


    YES. - It needs to work on A network that HAS 3G capability.



    THIS IS What I think.
    From what -I- have read however "3G" is strictly A grandson of [T]DMA

    From what -I- have read "3G" is NOT A forklift upgrade!


    Therefor it has NOTHING to do with [C]DMA whatsoever.


    You people need to wait for an upgrade that may be deemed "3.5" or even "4" G.
    To have any kind of speed differential between current edge speeds.



    My definition of A forklift upgrade is SOMEONE actually going out to the cell "SITE" (Not just A tower or repeater or Amplifier) an actual cell "SITE"
    and changing the node completely.


    What have I learned from all of this ?

    If this 8707v or V7078(><) IS INFACT CDMA(1XRTTB)CDMA2000 or even 1XRTT "A" (Current) then this may be infact my next BlackBerry if I can use the 2 new Themes featured on Mobile.BlackBerry.com for 4.1 enabled devices.

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    Last edited by ClieSource; 03-26-2006 at 06:16 PM.

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