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    Re: Thinking of trading in Curve for Treo...pros & cons?

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    Don't do it !!

    The Treo's battery is a TOTAL JOKE (680) - I purchased a 680 just under a month ago, within two weeks I'd listed it on ebay and purchased a Curve.

    Yep the Treo's all of the above, buggy, slow and poorly manufactured in my opinion (loose battery cover and poor SD card door, and the whole thng creaks and moans when you pick it up). But less that 24 hours from the battery is totally unacceptable (even after applying the latest camera patch), and constant resets were the final nail in it's coffin.

    I've been a Palm user for nearly 10 years (since the very first model), my Treo 680 experience has put me off Palm for life.

    The other thing that really bugged my about Palm, is all the bloated crap they install in the ROM which you can't remove, such as Addit etc.

    However I've got admit that the way Palm Versamail synced to Outlook and handled native office files & PDF's (via pre-installed Documents to Go) is a far superior solution in many respects to BB - But that's soon to be resolved as Documents to Go is being made available for BB by the end of the year

    So to sum it all up: Bye Bye Palm - Hello Blackberry !!
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    Re: Thinking of trading in Curve for Treo...pros & cons?

    can you not just use the gmail app on your curve to get all the functionality you want?

    turn off alerts for new mail and just open the gmail app when you want to check your mail or view your inbox.
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    Re: Thinking of trading in Curve for Treo...pros & cons?

    Quote Originally Posted by lilvalval
    I don't want email 24/7. I want to login and check email when I want ...and not see it when I don't want to. I want to see my entire inbox, not just what is new....i want to be able to see that email my client sent me a year ago thats still in my yahoo inbox.

    Would a treo accomplish these things? Also, if you feel like I would not be satisfied w/ a treo please share your thoughts.

    I'm new to this and have never had a bberry or a treo or anything like them.
    I started with the old BB and then switched to a Treo 650 and had nothing but troubles with it (constantly frooze up) it was almost a daily event of resetting it and got tired of it so I upgraded to the Treo 700p and it was a little more stable but still had it's share if issues and battery life is terrible if you actually use it for more than a phone. I have recently switched back to the BB Curve and while yes the BB can't do as much as the Treo but the BB seems to be 1000% more stable and works when you need it to. I started second guessing myself recently on switching to the Treo 750 to get the 3G service but came to my senses and I am sticking with the Curve, which I think I will be very happy with and will give me a lot less problems than the Treo.

    I also would be interested in syncing up old emails on the BB which so far I have not been able to find a solution for... anyone ever done this using BIS (not BES)? Or using a 3rd party app?

    I would stick with the BB and just not look at the phone when you don't want to get your email :-)


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    Re: Thinking of trading in Curve for Treo...pros & cons?

    The only thing that I saw as an obvious advantage the Treo has is the availability of 3rd party software. Something we're starting to see more of in the Blackberry world, but we're still not there. Also the lack of 3G on the Curve is something else I'm a little disappointed in. But I've used Treos and I'm way more at home with my Blackberrys.

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    My wife has the red treo from att. I got the curve after her now she's dying to get it. Her treo freezes constantly and now her ringer doesn't even work. The only thing cool about it that I like is the touch screen and that's not enough. I love the blackberry email. I'm sure you can set it the way you like. However, regardless of what phone you get between those two you will most likely be happy with both. Until the treo freezes lol. Also its kinda bulky and heavy for my tastes. The curve has a fantastic design.
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    Re: Thinking of trading in Curve for Treo...pros & cons?

    oh god, i wanna say i'm so happy i left treo for a blackberry curve. the beauty and the bb ui is so much better than a treo. i have nothing but good things to say about the bb.

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    Re: Thinking of trading in Curve for Treo...pros & cons?

    I don't know a darn thing about Treos (but it would appear that a lot of people here don't like them, LOL), but you can set the BB to not bug you when a new message arrives, and to keep e-mails forever.

    To keep messages forever: Go to Messages and choose "Options" from the menu, then "General Options." Scroll down to where it says "Keep Messages:" and you can choose "Forever" from the list of options.

    To not be bothered when you have new e-mail you do two things: First, set your active Profile up so that the BB doesn't ring, vibrate, or flash the LED when you have new messages. (Go to Profiles and select "Advanced" at the bottom of the menu to get to the setup screen. Select your active profile to edit options, and make sure to edit the options for each e-mail address you have set up, ex. Messages[me@yahoo.com], Messages[me@gmail.com], etc. The settings should be pretty self-explanatory.) Second, go to Messages and choose "Options" from the menu, and then "General Options." Set "Display Message Count:" to "None" and "Display New Message Indicator:" to "No." Presto, no indication whatsoever when a new message comes in! The only downside to this is that I don't think you'll get notification for new text messages, either.

    Do your e-mails sometimes disappear off the device? If so, do you also check your e-mail with a PC client (like Outlook, Thunderbird, etc.) that deletes messages from the server after it downloads them? If you have your BB account set up to delete messages from the device after they've been deleted from the server, you can change the settings so that it won't do that. Let me know if you want to do that.

    Hope this helps.

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    Re: Thinking of trading in Curve for Treo...pros & cons?

    I started out with Treo 750. Requires weekly softboots. No where near as stable as BB. Switched to BB because it is an email machine. Now with the CURVE, it is also a personal phone machine. Create profiles for work and when you are off. Access your YAHOO directly so it is just like on your PC and turn the alerts off. Don't waste your money on TREO.

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    Re: Thinking of trading in Curve for Treo...pros & cons?

    I myslef tried BlackBerry pearl 2 months ago. Then BB8800 tried , then I traded them for Treo 680. Now I am regrate of what I have done . I can not have the stable mobile phone with long battery life as BB ones. I will go back for BB phones soon.

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    Re: Thinking of trading in Curve for Treo...pros & cons?

    ~via BB (wap.pinstack.com)~The Treo is just a bad deal! Battery life WILL make you cuss and throw things! The likelihood that any old app will cause a freeze will be enough to strike fear in your heart every time you're ready to use it. STAY AWAY!

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    Re: Thinking of trading in Curve for Treo...pros & cons?

    The WM (Windows Mobile) devices are a bit more finicky to support for Email access (mostly depends on what program, e.g. Active Sync, etc, you use to fetch your mail) and function as limited replacements for ultralight notebooks based on my experience supporting these devices on a corporate LAN.

    Based on your needs a Treo or some other WM device would likely suit your needs better. Get something with as much RAM and storage card capacity as you can (my suggestion). Plan on keeping the device 1-2 years before you need to buy something else (either because it breaks, the battery no longer charges acceptably, or you need a newer O/S on the handheld). I got fed up trying to support email on WM and palm devices, so we switched the company to BlackBerry. I can (literally!) support 16 BB devices with less time and energy than it took to support just one WM device (let alone 5).

    I just can't put up with WM. It seems to have a mind of its own. I'd much rather just carry a notebook PC with a mobile data card. It would be less hassle in the end. Many people love WM. I'm not one of them. I'd rather lose functionality in a BB yet gain robustness and reliability. I have to augment it with a notebook. But I'd have to augment a WM device with a notebook too. So WM doesn't gain there.

    As much a a WM device frustrates and aggrevates me, I suspect the roles would be reversed with you being aggrevated by the BB. Like the others have said you have 30 days to evaluate it. You can make a truly informated decision from spec sheets and anecdotal suggestions on in Internet Message Board. You need to live with the device day-in and day-out, get intimate hands-on knowledge about it, in order to make an informed opinion according to your own biases, wants, and needs.

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    Re: Thinking of trading in Curve for Treo...pros & cons?

    Quote Originally Posted by mporter
    Don't do it !!

    The Treo's battery is a TOTAL JOKE (680) - I purchased a 680 just under a month ago, within two weeks I'd listed it on ebay and purchased a Curve.

    Yep the Treo's all of the above, buggy, slow and poorly manufactured in my opinion (loose battery cover and poor SD card door, and the whole thng creaks and moans when you pick it up). But less that 24 hours from the battery is totally unacceptable (even after applying the latest camera patch), and constant resets were the final nail in it's coffin.

    I've been a Palm user for nearly 10 years (since the very first model), my Treo 680 experience has put me off Palm for life.

    The other thing that really bugged my about Palm, is all the bloated crap they install in the ROM which you can't remove, such as Addit etc.

    However I've got admit that the way Palm Versamail synced to Outlook and handled native office files & PDF's (via pre-installed Documents to Go) is a far superior solution in many respects to BB - But that's soon to be resolved as Documents to Go is being made available for BB by the end of the year

    So to sum it all up: Bye Bye Palm - Hello Blackberry !!
    I have to give a big +1 to this post. I was also a Palm user since their first models. I still have my PalmPilot 1000 somewhere in a storage box...

    The Palm OS has not been updated in many years... I found the Treos (both Palm and Windows OS) to be much more unstable than the Blackberry. I have several co-workers that have their own personal Treos and they're now considering dumping them now that they've given us Blackberries here at work.

    IMHO, the Blackberry just plain works much better than the Treos.

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    Re: Thinking of trading in Curve for Treo...pros & cons?

    Pro: You get to say you own a treo
    Con: You have to own a treo

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    Re: Thinking of trading in Curve for Treo...pros & cons?

    I have tested Treo's, Q-Tek's, iPaq's, Vodafone own brand devices and all manner of BB devices. There is absolutely no contest. The main thing I found with Treo's was the awful battery life and the constant syncing errors. Currently testing an 8300 for work and am smitten with it. I'm going to do a runner to keep it!!!

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    Re: Thinking of trading in Curve for Treo...pros & cons?

    I have been a long time BB user and decided that I would hop onto the Treo train. I liked the new microsoft OS looks and the email tree. Also, I liked the higher speeds of the 750. When I got it, what a mistake. The OS was bulky at best. It would freeze quite often and I seemingly had the battery out of it more than in the device.

    IMHO, blackberry has one of the most solid platforms and on a usability stance, it is very easy to navigate around. Now if RIM and AT&T can just build one with a faster conection, I would be in heaven.

    I lost my 8700 to the bottom of the lake and now love my curve!

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