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    Verizon GPS Information

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    If you are a Verizon subscriber and currently us a puck to facilitate GPS function DO NOT use *228 this will disable the ability of your phone to connect to another GPS device. The option under Advanced Options- GPS- Select Device- will be removed and access to GPS functionality further restricted.

    Further this whole problem is a service book issue. The phones when supplied to you by Verizon prior to activation are equipped and function to receive GPS information. You can use the GPS option prior to activation and see additional options and receive GPS fixes but as soon as the service books are sent upon activation those options will no longer appear and the GPS function will for all practical purposes be gone.

    Verizons excuse is that they do not have the technical skills necessary to secure the network while allowing this option while their competitors, Sprint and others do. Or they are just lying and want to sell you their weak applications instead, either reason is equally bad.

    The security issue is nonsense as we all know, as Verizon offers phones and plans specifically to track the real time location of the people given the phones. They have software that allows tracking of one phone by another or over the internet on a desk top and features that record movement and signal you via text message when your target crosses a predetermined geographical point.

    So Verizon, as of this week, continues to market with double talk, lies, and misinformation to their subscribers apparently for the sake of a buck.

    As soon as their customer service or coverage starts to suffer I suspect subscribers will leave in droves. Kind of odd isn't it, that good customer service can forgive so many sins. Why do most large companies not know this simple little fact.

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    ^ ^ I see what you did there...

    See this thread for more info Verizon's GPS not so cool practices.
    (already a class action lawsuit in the works for 8830 BB users)

    Petition Carrier$ to "unlock" GPS on all devices (other carriers as well)

    (BTW via a Presidential directive, GPS signal is Free of cost to end users, yet Verizon charges...)
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    I wish this GPS issue would get settled already!

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    Quote Originally Posted by j llama View Post
    ^ ^ I see what you did there...


    (BTW via a Presidential directive, GPS signal is Free of cost to end users, yet Verizon charges...)
    While I agree that verizon should unlock the gps in the device, frankly, the Presidential directive has no real meaning. While the signals are out there for anyone to use, you do need a device to capture them and then convert them to useful information. Garmin does not give away its devices to interpret FREE gps signals. On the other hand, the device(s) verizon sells apparently has a gps inside it and verizon has seen fit to charge additional money to use it.

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    I just broke down and bought a damned GPS

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    I use a Holux Gps puck and did *228 programing this afternoon and still my 8330 and Holux work fine. I do wish Verizon would man up and admit they are wrong and unlock GPS for their customers.

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    I can understand paying a monthly fee to use Verizons software and maps, but not paying to use the GPS. It's unfair and wrong. If I could get a service provider with better coverage and service than VZW here in WYO I would just because of the GPS issue.

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    Amen!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FF2 View Post
    While I agree that verizon should unlock the gps in the device, frankly, the Presidential directive has no real meaning. While the signals are out there for anyone to use, you do need a device to capture them and then convert them to useful information. Garmin does not give away its devices to interpret FREE gps signals. On the other hand, the device(s) verizon sells apparently has a gps inside it and verizon has seen fit to charge additional money to use it.
    Yes, but Garmin is charging you for a device that interprets those signals. With my 8830, I have a device that does just that. But Verizon thinks it can just disable the service on a device that I own.

    I guess that's what irks me most. I already paid for the thing. I should be able to use it without what amounts to extortion.

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    well the whole story with them saying they cant secure gps data travel on their networks is why they charge for vz navigator. vz nav is aGPS which uses triangulated coordinated from the carrier towers and thats what you are paying for. now although its BS they are not actually charging you for the gps built into the phone.
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    After doing a *228 I lost the option to select a GPS device. When I talked to the Verizon guy who called me as a result of a post I made on PlanetFeedback, told me that they believed they had closed all the avenues of enabling GPS and used the *228 and other OTA protocols to do it. I just lose menu options as each choice is disabled.

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    Verizon Is Forced to Listen

    With the enabled functionality of the internal GPS with BB maps it looks like too many people left and or threatened to leave so they "unbroken" the 8830 just enough to buy some more time until they are forced to completely "unbreak" it. So all the calling and blogging and noise is paying off. A slap in the face of the neysayers.

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