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Before you buy a Bluetooth donggle

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Before you buy a Bluetooth donggle

Continued from another Thread:

Ok, update on the Bluetooht for all of us XP sp2. 1st of all i want to kill this thread and post a new one. "Before you buy a Bluetooth donggle".

I tried everything possible known on the internet, Tech support, and the final resolution is

YOU CAN NOT GET A BLUETOOTH DONGLE TO WORK CORECTLY WITH A NON_LISTED DONGLE!!!

IT IS IMPOSSIBE--- Unless Rim does a work around. Belive me- nothing you can do to get the full functions out of BT on PC and a USB dongle
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Re: Before you buy a Bluetooth donggle

If your looking to use Blackberry 4.x managment software and XP sp2 together with Bluetooth somewhere along the lines you going to find out that you might need a bluetooth dongle which is a usb abdapter to make your pc bluetooth.

If your Laptop comes with bluetooth already you might want to use this following list to make sure your BT works with BB software.

I have spent way too much time on trying to make a kensington dongle play nice with my BB. In summry, I got it to reconize BT, but I could only make my phone a headset gate way, I could not get the sync to work with outlook and the BB device (also know if your using Winncomm software as PIM).

If you want to save a lot of time (i spent around two weeks calling, surfing, everything possible known I could have done), just buy one of the dongles that is listed by Microsoft & Rim that works.

MY NEXT POST IS THE LIST
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Re: Before you buy a Bluetooth donggle

[FONT=Verdana][FONT=Verdana]ALPS Integrated Bluetooth DeviceUSB\Vid_044e&Pid_3005
Alps Bluetooth USB AdapterUSB\Vid_044e&Pid_3006
Belkin Bluetooth AdapterUSB\Vid_050d&Pid_0081
Belkin Bluetooth AdapterUSB\Vid_050d&Pid_0084
Blutonium BCM2035
Bluetooth 2.4 GHz Single Chip TransceiverUSB\VID_0A5C&PID_200A
Brain Boxes USB Bluetooth Adapter BL-554USB\Vid_05d1&Pid_0003
BCM2033 Bluetooth 2.4 GHz Single Chip TransceiverUSB\VID_0A5C&PID_200F Generic Bluetooth RadioUSB\Vid_0a12&Pid_0001
CSR NanosiraUSB\Vid_0a12&Pid_0003
CSR Nanosira WHQL Reference RadioUSB\Vid_0a12&Pid_0004
CSR Nanosira-MultimediaUSB\Vid_0a12&Pid_0005
CSR Nanosira-Multimedia WHQL Reference RadioUSB\Vid_0a12&Pid_0006
Dell TrueMobile Bluetooth ModuleUSB\VID_413C&PID_8000
FIC Bluetooth Wireless AdapterUSB\Vid_05b1&Pid_1389
GVC Bluetooth Wireless AdapterUSB\Vid_0525&Pid_a220
IBM Integrated Bluetooth IIUSB\Vid_1668&Pid_0441
Microsoft Wireless Transceiver for BluetoothUSB\Vid_045e&Pid_007e
Silicon Wave Bluetooth Wireless AdapterUSB\Vid_0c10&Pid_0000&Rev_1350
Silicon Wave Bluetooth Wireless AdapterUSB\Vid_0c10&Pid_0000
USB Bluetooth DeviceUSB\Vid_044E&Pid_3002
USB Bluetooth DeviceUSB\Vid_044E&Pid_3003
Sony Bluetooth USB AdapterUSB\Vid_044E&Pid_3004
TDK Bluetooth USB AdapterUSB\Vid_04BF&Pid_0319
TDK Bluetooth USB AdaptorUSB\VID_04BF&PID_0320
TOSHIBA Integrated BluetoothUSB\Vid_0930&Pid_0502&Rev_1350
TOSHIBA Integrated Bluetooth 2USB\Vid_0930&Pid_0505
Dell Wireless 350 Bluetooth ModuleUSB\VID_413C&PID_8103
Bluetooth USB Adapter (BT-51x serial)USB\Vid_0b7a&Pid_07d0&Rev_0126
Bluetooth USB Adapter (BT-51x serial)USB\Vid_0b7a&Pid_07d0&Rev_0133
"HP USB BT Transceiver [1.2]"USB\Vid_03F0&Pid_0C24
IBM Integrated Bluetooth IIIUSB\Vid_1668&Pid_2441
Microsoft Wireless Transceiver for Bluetooth 2.0USB\Vid_045e&Pid_009c
Motion Computing USB Bluetooth DeviceUSB\Vid_10ab&Pid_1002
USB Bluetooth Wireless AdapterUSB\Vid_1310&Pid_0001
USB Bluetooth DeviceUSB\Vid_044E&Pid_3007
TDK Bluetooth USB AdapterUSB\Vid_04BF&Pid_0319
TDK Bluetooth USB AdapterUSB\VID_04BF&PID_0320
TOSHIBA Integrated Bluetooth 3USB\VID_0930&PID_0506
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Re: Before you buy a Bluetooth donggle

I also like to include, I am in the Washington DC area and I was only to find - out of all the computer major stores - Bestbuy, Radio Shack, Circuit City, CompUsa - the only place I found a dongle that worked was at Curcuit City.

The model I got ended up being a Belkin, which by the way, I had to but a duel set,printer and dongle set $100.

It works perfect, I will note that at RadioShack they have a motorolo set which is a head set and dongle. I already had the headset, and when I walked into circuit city i figured the only way I was going to get somethign that worked is to spend the money on the set.

Good Luck and if anyone knows of how to get the non-listed dongle to work let us know.
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Re: Before you buy a Bluetooth donggle

I've had my own set of headaches with Bluetooth dongles and Winders. I can attest that it is very challenging to get the technology to work when using a system that does not have Bluetooth as part of the hardware.

I tried to get an Ambicomm BT dongle to work with one of my Toshiba notebook computers. I finally bought the Toshiba micro-card Bluetooth hardware, took my notebook apart, and installed the hardware. (It's not supposed to be end-user installed, but I persuaded a receptive CDW rep to sell me the unit figuring "how hard can it be?")

Once I had native hardware installed, Bluetooth worked much better. I suppose that a dongle would work OK for a headset or a mouse or keyboard. But file transfers and other forms of communication seem to be more challenging.
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Re: Before you buy a Bluetooth donggle

Ambicomm BT dongle - not on the list roflamooo sorry bad joke I know how frustrated it is ^^^^^^ glad to hear you did get a work around tho
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Re: Before you buy a Bluetooth donggle

Bad jokes are OK.

Interestingly enough, that "exercise" was pre-BB and I was looking for ways to wirelessly connect my Winders notebook with my PDA. What I learned is that native Bluetooth support was far superior to after-market solutions. I wasn't totally pleased with Bluetooth support under Winders, either. Hence I bought my PowerBook with Bluetooth and will not buy another computer without Bluetooth support included in the package.

Yeah, I'm a McUser, but am literate in both Winders and *nix worlds too.

Bottom line: Bluetooth support is still pretty finicky.
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Re: Before you buy a Bluetooth donggle

I did not realize it either until after I bought a bluetooth keyboard and mouse with dongle. I assumed any BT dongle would work. Clearly not the case. Now if i want to use BT to synch the BB I will have to buy another dongle.
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Re: Before you buy a Bluetooth donggle

If you are running the bb V4.x manager you need to make sure you dongle is from the list. I will say tho, that Belkin is probally most compadable with most devices. The list I included above is from Microsft & Rim. From everything I have read, the problem comes from not windows Xp sp2 seeing the BT dongle, my kensington modle picks up my headset on the pc, BUT the problem is, when you have software talking to software.

The issue with the blackberry software -it is written for nothing but the Microsoft compadable devices. Somewhere in the Rim code is where the fault lies. A patch from Rim could correct this.
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Re: Before you buy a Bluetooth donggle

yup... bought a usb bluetooth device... realized once i was home that my 7250 was only bluetooth voice enabled.

oh well.

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The issue with the blackberry software -it is written for nothing but the Microsoft compadable devices. Somewhere in the Rim code is where the fault lies. A patch from Rim could correct this.
I have an 8700, it does not have the Bluetooth OBEX service for moving data or beaming. It seems that RIM left that part of the BT stack out, for some reason. Security ?

Robin
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Re: Before you buy a Bluetooth donggle

I have a BB 7100 and bought a no-name dongle, USB bluetooth, on a trip to Germany in January. I paid 5 Euro. I cannot get it to work with windows xp drivers -- spent many hours trying. But the software that came with it works fine. It is generic and can be downloaded at the Blue Soleil website for free at (www) bluesoleil (com). I use it both for my laptop and my desktop to sync with outlook. Once the BB Desktop program is up, I start the BlueSoleil program. Pair the devices by right-clicking on the phone icon. Right-click again and choose "Connect" to Bluethooth Serial Port Service A, which will open COM5. This has to be entered in the Desktop Manager under Connections and they start to talk. If the operation needs to be repeated, I disconnect from Service A and reconnect again. Not elegant, but it works. I probably got a clone USB dongle -- a message pops up that the mode is reduced to "5MB", but that's plenty.
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Re: Before you buy a Bluetooth donggle

I have an pretty old Thematake Bluetooth USB dongle. It is working with my Pearl syncing to my Dell Latitude D820 computer. Can I do more than just syncing?
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Re: Before you buy a Bluetooth donggle

Well I've managed to get a really cheap and nasty dongle (Ł7.00 aprox $15.00) bought from a non specialist (ALDI) cheap supermarket to work with through DMS 4.2 with my BB Pearl. It didn't work for ages, but as we know all MS operating systems want ot do is to take charge of what ever device it can get it's hans on. My dongle is from Cambridge Radio and is called a Tevion.

All I did was unistal the OEM sofware. Re-booted, plugged in the dongle and let MS XP SP2 do it's thing. Paired the Dongle and Pearl then Launched the DSM. The only thing is that Media Manager will only work through a USB connection.

Hope this helps
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Re: Before you buy a Bluetooth donggle

Bulz_eye, Can you post the link to this dongle list? I want to see if it has been updated. Electronics like this have a short life span. I am having trouble finding sources for these specific items. Can you also help me understand your VID and PID designations?
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