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    Re: i hate opea mini warm to ppl dont use a pearl w/o a data plan

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    Quote Originally Posted by lineus
    It is not correct for TMO prepaid plan I have because there is no any changes in balance related to data transfer. I also expected something like daily or per Kb charges but only SMS and calls make balance go down.
    For the 18th time, when you use Data.. at the end the day it will deduct 1$ from you balance.. its not per-KB its per-DAY 1$.. PER DAY.. for UNLIMITED transfer.

    DO we get it yet? O_O

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    Re: i hate opea mini warm to ppl dont use a pearl w/o a data plan

    Quote Originally Posted by ericugs
    For the 18th time, when you use Data.. at the end the day it will deduct 1$ from you balance.. its not per-KB its per-DAY 1$.. PER DAY.. for UNLIMITED transfer.

    DO we get it yet?O_O
    Holy cow! Once again - THEY DO NOT CHARGE ANYTHING AT THE END OF THE DAY!
    Two weeks I was trying to track balance few times a day, they would charge me 14 bucks only for data since that time - NO CHANGES

    DO we get it yet?O_O

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    I was born at night, but it was not yesterday's night... so please believe that I am not an idiot who can't properly check balance.. I used to deal with all kinds of mobile devices and operators A LOT and know how it works. BB's is still new for me but principles are the same if you know what I am talking about..
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    Re: i hate opea mini warm to ppl dont use a pearl w/o a data plan

    I have a few prepaid sims lying around.. and I assure you they're getting charged.. maybe yours is glitched for some reason.

    I contacted tmobile already and asked them their prepaid data policy. Explained your situation after they told me what I already knew, and they said they've heard of it but its a very rare occurance if you're not lying.

    So all in all, you sir are an isolated incident. There is no such thing as 'free' in this world :P esp data! Otherwise we'd all have 9.99 plans with prepaid sims for data! Congrats on your free-data nonetheless, until they fix yours that is.

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    Re: i hate opea mini warm to ppl dont use a pearl w/o a data plan

    i'm surprised that he got that to work at all but i guess thats cingular, but i work for t-mobile and i know every time you access their internet whether you are on a regular or a pda that it charges you the .01cent per kilobyte. i dont know the whole esn, i didnt know people still called it that. i know when i did portability for sprint thats what they called it, but thats besides the point....but thats nuts! t-mobile won't allow you to get on without a data plan it usually displays data connection refused, and won't allow you acces to internet, im, mms, and tzones on a blackberry without the plan. but good luck with all of that!`

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    Re: i hate opea mini warm to ppl dont use a pearl w/o a data plan

    I do not have much of reasons to lie... and also was smart enough not to call to TMO and ask about thit case. Unfortunately their web site doesn't have any info about data billing on prepaid or it is hidden very deep.. Thanks for calling them for me
    I am already old enough to understand about "free" things in this world also. Minimal data usage (10-20 Mb or so per month) could for example be included to prepaid plan and I expected that as an answer to my question... but if you say my SIM is glitched.. well.. I let it stay like this. It is always nice to be an isolated incident but not with $400 bill at the end
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    Re: i hate opea mini warm to ppl dont use a pearl w/o a data plan

    Quote Originally Posted by jonnyxedge
    t-mobile won't allow you to get on without a data plan it usually displays data connection refused, and won't allow you acces to internet, im, mms, and tzones on a blackberry without the plan.


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    Re: i hate opea mini warm to ppl dont use a pearl w/o a data plan

    ~via BB (wap.pinstack.com)~man were u craying when u were using the free service 2.

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    Re: i hate opea mini warm to ppl dont use a pearl w/o a data plan

    Ok, just to sum up the whole process. I worked in the Cingular Data Specialist department and have been certified as a blackberry specialist as well. What I can say is that you MUST have a blackberry profile on your account. (notice I didnt say blackberry plan) Without this service your blackberry will not function on the data network.

    It needs that connection through RIM's servers that will allow the Blackberry service books needed to be pushed to your device.

    Now if you ended up going through the back door and somehow got a blackberry profile created on your account then you are good to go, but of course your screwed because you only have a limited amount of data to use..

    Now if you copied or transfered the neccessary 3 - 5 services books required to access blackberry data services then again you are good to go, but you will still be screwed because you have a limited amout of data to use.

    Just to let everyone know that there is a "backdoor" for every service provider and data service out there, however it will cost you BIG if you get caught or dont do enough research on this.

    Trust me I have seen and done a lot of these before.

    Hope this can clarify everyones fussing and wondering on here.

    It boils down to.... Do it the right way and you will come out ok. If you cant afford it then dont get it. Sorry to be so harsh, but that's the way it goes.

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    Re: i hate opea mini warm to ppl dont use a pearl w/o a data plan

    By the way if you got your phone through someone else that was connected to a BES, they may still have policies allowing you to access the internet.

    If this is so then there's your "back door" but still you are responsible for making sure you have all neccessary plans available.

    A good way to check this is go to settings > options > security options > general settings > at the very bottom of this screen you will see "services"... if you see anything here your phone is still running certain policies on a BES server.

    Get with the person who gave you the phone and ask that they tell their company to remove your pin from their BES.
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    Re: i hate opea mini warm to ppl dont use a pearl w/o a data plan

    right now i'm paiding 20 a month for service
    with cingular 700 min family plan 10$
    media package umilaite data use for 10$
    and yes i did paid my 400
    chaep

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    Re: i hate opea mini warm to ppl dont use a pearl w/o a data plan

    Quote Originally Posted by zippys
    right now i'm paiding 20 a month for service
    with cingular 700 min family plan 10$
    media package umilaite data use for 10$
    and yes i did paid my 400
    chaep
    It's PAYING and UNLIMITED and CHEAP. Get Firefox and it will correct your spelling mistakes.

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    Re: i hate opea mini warm to ppl dont use a pearl w/o a data plan

    Once again to you all folks:

    1. I bought new TMO phone online (eBay) and unlocked it with code purchased off eBay. There were no any service books or profiles installed. Of course first thing I did was an attempt to load SB but obviously it failed. BTW I used non-US-provider SIM card for that being in roaming.

    2. At the same time I terminated my service with Verizon (was paying $100 per month) and bought new prepaid TMO SIM card again off eBay. The reason I did it is that I leave US soon for a long time so contract is not an option for me now. Again - I went to prepaid not for cheap solution or something else but to be able to stop using phone in US whenever I need without calling to provides and paying termination fees for contract.

    3. I was NOT looking for back door and never transferred any service books to BB. I just put my SIM in BB, istalled Opera Mini and it started to work. No special tricks were used. Prepaid TMO SIM doesn't allow to get SB.

    4. Once again for those who is in the tank - I HAVE ENOUGH FUNDS TO GET BB DATA PLAN which you all are promoting here BUT I DO NOT NEED IT because than it will be not PREpaid any more.

    At that point I am not looking for answers any more. I hate to say it but many of stackers here are limited with three universal problem solving answers: baterry pull, reinstall system software and get data plan. These things are probably good because they are universal but very few people around really know BB devices and services better than just installing new ringtones or themes. That is sad. I appreciate real help which I got on Stack but when some a**holes start to call people trolls and idiots and sream "get out of cheap holes and sign up for data plan" knowing nothing about person's "have's and need's" - that is too much. I apreciate moderator's attempt to cool down thread little bit but BS started all over again.
    Yes, BB phones are special devices which can show best performance only with unlimited data plan and BES account. But 99.99% of you folks pushed three to five times your track balls to download service books and get all setting automatically.. I can imagine what would be here on forum if you had to set up all internet settings step by step and tune up synchronisation.. It is easy to be happy when everything is done for you by somebody else and scream "pay up, get the plan".
    I am sorry if I hurt somebody's feelings but that is what I see around in this topic. Whish you all good luck


    PS For all famous literati of PinStack: I did my best typing in English
    Last edited by lineus; 04-25-2007 at 11:32 AM.
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    Re: i hate opea mini warm to ppl dont use a pearl w/o a data plan

    Well ill be the first to say I'm sorry and I was wrong about using the internet on your decice. And I apologize for not understanding you completely. ~via BB (wap.pinstack.com)~

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    Re: i hate opea mini warm to ppl dont use a pearl w/o a data plan

    Wow, talk about a completely of track and flaming thread. Yes some people need to learn you type correctly/use spells check.

    Also, I don't know how it works, but I know you can also run a Window's Mobile phone off of a pre-paid SIM card, no charge. Whether that works for a Blackberry or not, I don't know.

    Learn to respect other people's opinions and/or help. Isn't that what we're all here for? To learn from each other.

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